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| Thread ID: 101867 | 2009-07-30 03:40:00 | IT quals? | rob_on_guitar (4196) | PC World Chat |
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| 796414 | 2009-07-30 05:33:00 | Quals can often be the difference between getting an interview and not...esp if a recruitment company is being used. When working in the UK if found that a lot of jobs advertised through recruitment companies required a MSSA or E just to get an interview. Most of them didnt even know what it was but figured if you had it then you must know something (not true). Guess they hadnt heard of Must Consult Someone Else. Still, it cant hurt you to have them. If a company has to pick between 2 candidates with identical or similar experience and 1 of them has qualifications and the other doesnt then you know who they are going to pick. Just my 2 cents. B. |
Barnabas (4562) | ||
| 796415 | 2009-07-30 05:49:00 | If a company has to pick between 2 candidates with identical or similar experience and 1 of them has qualifications and the other doesnt then you know who they are going to pick. Not always - it also depends on what the people are like. (Personality) If the person with the Quals comes across as a "know all - and I cant be told anything" they may not get the job over someone who shows they are willing to learn more, or get on with others. I know of a few people who got jobs because they knew how to talk to people and had experience over people with Quals. ( not just in IT) |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 796416 | 2009-07-30 06:55:00 | Not always - it also depends on what the people are like. (Personality) Yes. The younger one will get the job. Well, depends, not if its a senior specialist role perhaps. But even say 10 years ago, I went for a job at Datacom, just support, and the snotty prick told me I was too old and therefore incapable of learning anymore. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 796417 | 2009-07-30 06:57:00 | I have been to interviews alongside someone with the same qual as me and because I was just 40 I didn't get it the twenty something did | gary67 (56) | ||
| 796418 | 2009-07-30 07:01:00 | Yes. The younger one will get the job. Well, depends, not if its a senior specialist role perhaps. But even say 10 years ago, I went for a job at Datacom, just support, and the snotty prick told me I was too old and therefore incapable of learning anymore. You're also more expensive to hire, since you're older and more experienced. |
somebody (208) | ||
| 796419 | 2009-07-30 07:20:00 | Quite a good read guys, anybody recently had to interview anyone or got interviewed for a job? | rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 796420 | 2009-07-30 07:53:00 | Yup it is not just skills or on paper. It is how you communicated yourself, are you a good fit in the org, etc etc. A person who is too senior may not be ideal cos they may be a former manager and used to giving orders than doing it, they may have their own ways and be unflexible etc etc. If you are hiring a person for a entry/std position I would think that they ideally want a younger person with some qualifications not heaps and some skills that they have done it and is familiar with it ... and most impt a good fit to the org and to other workers. |
Nomad (952) | ||
| 796421 | 2009-07-30 09:42:00 | Personally I reckon experience and being motivated to learn new things on the job. The certs are just to prove to yourself and to employers/customers what you know. If you can prove that you know that stuff without the certs then you don't really need them do you:p The papers can further "strenghten" your knowledge though.. Blam |
Blam (54) | ||
| 796422 | 2009-07-30 11:45:00 | Quite a good read guys, anybody recently had to interview anyone or got interviewed for a job? I had 4 interviews in March but they were all for Accounting jobs so I'm not sure how relevant it is... |
beeswax34 (63) | ||
| 796423 | 2009-07-30 21:43:00 | Quite a good read guys, anybody recently had to interview anyone or got interviewed for a job? Had a pretty hardcore interview a few months back for a senior position; got grilled by a panel of 3 for over an hour, and they only wanted demonstrated experience in dealing with certain issues and scenarios, not my thoughts on what I may or may not do etc. That was the hardest interview I've ever had. And there seems to be a trend emerging here in some sectors, as there is overseas, where employers are more prepared to fore-go qualifications and even experience for attitude & aptitude; the assumption being that if you have the right attitude (towards yourself, your job, and others) you can be taught just about anything, whereas if you have the skillset needed, but fail epically at lifeskills, you're not going to succeed in a modern company. |
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