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Thread ID: 101867	2009-07-30 03:40:00	IT quals?	rob_on_guitar (4196)	PC World Chat

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796404	2009-07-30 03:40:00	Just hanging out with our IT dept. Quite weird I thought how I'd guess 75% of them had no quals but just got the job through a mate or was just at the right place at the right time. They said now you pretty much have to have certs and papers to even apply for an IT job. You guys find this now? I'd imagine it would create a clash of ways things are done between new school and old school point of views....	rob_on_guitar (4196)
796405	2009-07-30 03:46:00	Nah, experience over paper qual any day!....	SolMiester (139)
796406	2009-07-30 03:58:00	Nah, experience over paper qual any day! . . . . Bang on - I'd hire a keen young fella like Blam ANY DAY over a crusty old guy with an out-of-date MSCE . Having said that, experience and quals are quite important for enterprise stuff . . . . there's a world of difference between setting up your Nan's WLAN and architecting a corporate LAN with several subnets etc!! ;)	nofam (9009)
796407	2009-07-30 03:59:00	Nah, experience over paper qual any day!.... Agree - I know a few techs around the place, and most of them have no Qual's (a couple do) BUT if I were ever needed to hire people, I wouldn't hesitate if those guys came calling - they know their stuff. While its is good to have Quals - having A bit of paper that says you can do stuff, doesn't mean in real life you can. Many times "things that happen" are not taught.	wainuitech (129)
796408	2009-07-30 04:07:00	Agreed. It's one thing to study for an exam when you know what the questions will be, but when real-life comes knocking with unexpected situations that's when you need to be good at problem solving, not good at memorizing required answers!	Chilling_Silence (9)
796409	2009-07-30 04:23:00	Bang on - I'd hire a keen young fella like Blam ANY DAY over a crusty old guy with an out-of-date MSCE. True but how many keen young fellas have experience with MS-DOS, Xenix, OS2, Windows 3.1, NT or even Win 95 if it comes to that. Those early OS's and associated technology gave me some valuable hands-on grounding in the IT game.	BigBadBob (14963)
796410	2009-07-30 04:25:00	Experience, in my opinion will alsways be looked upon favourably by anu proscpective employer... whilsts quals are good to have experience is something that can never be taught. We had a young fulla working for us a few months ago, graduated with a degree in comp science... could barely tell the difference between a capacitor and a jumper on a mobo? It was hard work getting him on the right track. but he did in the end.	chiefnz (545)
796411	2009-07-30 04:29:00	True but how many keen young fellas have experience with MS-DOS, Xenix, OS2, Windows 3.1, NT or even Win 95 if it comes to that. Those early OS's and associated technology gave me some valuable hands-on grounding in the IT game. Fair point; there's a lot to be said for having a grounding in older O/S's, especially when you get into Unix/Linux, as being comfy at a CLI is a big help. But there's also a lot of older guys in the game that were great on Mainframes etc, and now get lost with virtualization, network security, app configuration, spyware removal etc. The problem is that the sands are shifting so quickly in IT, which is why being open to 're-tooling' yourself is so important.	nofam (9009)
796412	2009-07-30 04:37:00	The problem is that the sands are shifting so quickly in IT, which is why being open to 're-tooling' yourself is so important. It's also where PressF1 comes in - ongoing discussion here with peers is very useful for picking up useful information from the community.	somebody (208)
796413	2009-07-30 04:54:00	It's also where PressF1 comes in - ongoing discussion here with peers is very useful for picking up useful information from the community. Damn right - you guys have always been here to help; as I'm a team of 1, looking after 4 servers and over 100 PC's it's great to have the salty crew here at PF1 to bounce ideas off of and get advice from!!! :thumbs:	nofam (9009)
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