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Thread ID: 102029	2009-08-05 01:47:00	Forget The "Great" In Great Briton	SurferJoe46 (51)	PC World Chat

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798213	2009-08-05 01:47:00	I didn't write it, so don't shoot the messenger: ibid: - Britain's bout of reflection on its last gasps of empire comes at a natural point in its history. The Great Recession came as a surprise and has accelerated the trend, but the rise of China, India, and Brazil, and the changing ties to a declining America, have been visible for many years. As America turns to building new ties with the advancing powers of Asia and Latin America—even sending its top envoys to promise its creditors in China that the U.S. will handle its debts responsibly—-Britain can only feel less special. The nation is in the totally predictable grip of the ennui and general grumpiness that accompany the end of a political era. Eleven years ago, the year after Tony Blair's Labour Party had swept to victory, ending 18 years of Conservative rule, he spoke in Dublin of a Britain that was "emerging from its post-empire malaise." He was characteristically optimistic. He said he hoped the Irish saw Britain as a country that was "modernizing, becoming as confident of its future as it once was of its past." Those were indeed heady times for Britons. Phrases like "New Labour" and "new dawn" and "new Britain" were not yet curdling on the tongue. Today, Blair is two years out of office, Labour's reign 12 years old. His successor, Gordon Brown, suffers from a gray, been-there-too-long aura. Long gone is the cultural ferment of "Cool Britannia" that made London the capital of cool in the early Blair years. The gloom was made all the deeper in recent months by a parliamentary-expenses scandal that heaped public scorn on politics and politicians alike......etc cetera. HERE'S THE LINK (www.newsweek.com) - go see fer yerselves.	SurferJoe46 (51)
798214	2009-08-05 02:03:00	Britain Joe Ken :horrified	kenj (9738)
798215	2009-08-05 02:27:00	OIC Britain It's "Brits" or "Britons", and "British" with a single T . I'll try to be beter laitter . My spell-checker just barfed .	SurferJoe46 (51)
798216	2009-08-05 05:39:00	Actually the Anglo-Saxon/Norman English pulled a swifty over their Celtic neighbours with the Act of Union in 1707. Britain is what the Romans called the islands populated then mainly by Celts. So until 1707 to be a Briton was to be a Celt. Over the years it has become accepted to mean anyone living in Great Britain. When things go right there is a tendency for the Saxon English to claim kudos for the English, even when it happens to be a Scottish golfer for example. When something goes wrong for the English there is a tendency then to hide behind the Great Britain title, so that the Celts also take their share of the blame.:rolleyes:	Terry Porritt (14)
798217	2009-08-05 11:35:00	Actually the Anglo-Saxon/Norman English pulled a swifty over their Celtic neighbours with the Act of Union in 1707. Britain is what the Romans called the islands populated then mainly by Celts. So until 1707 to be a Briton was to be a Celt. Over the years it has become accepted to mean anyone living in Great Britain. When things go right there is a tendency for the Saxon English to claim kudos for the English, even when it happens to be a Scottish golfer for example. When something goes wrong for the English there is a tendency then to hide behind the Great Britain title, so that the Celts also take their share of the blame.:rolleyes: The tune dammit? Where is it? You have a responsibility to your public you know :D	R2x1 (4628)
798218	2009-08-05 11:52:00	Actually the Anglo-Saxon/Norman English pulled a swifty over their Celtic neighbours with the Act of Union in 1707. Britain is what the Romans called the islands populated then mainly by Celts. So until 1707 to be a Briton was to be a Celt. Over the years it has become accepted to mean anyone living in Great Britain. When things go right there is a tendency for the Saxon English to claim kudos for the English, even when it happens to be a Scottish golfer for example. When something goes wrong for the English there is a tendency then to hide behind the Great Britain title, so that the Celts also take their share of the blame.:rolleyes: Not much different between here and over the ditch in my opinion. Phar Lap was an Aussie horse. Pavlova was invented in Australia. ( The dessert ). There are other examples like some music artists as well.	Sweep (90)
798219	2009-08-05 21:53:00	Not much different between here and over the ditch in my opinion. Phar Lap was an Aussie horse. There are other examples like some music artists as well. Not quite, Phar Lap was foaled in New Zealand so we at least have a direct claim to him - and there's no "Australasian" terminology which is kind of like the British term. Whereas the English will claim a Scottish sportsperson as 'British' to try and receive some of the kudos.	Wheels (7227)
798220	2009-08-05 23:22:00	Not quite, Phar Lap was foaled in New Zealand so we at least have a direct claim to him - and there's no "Australasian" terminology which is kind of like the British term. Whereas the English will claim a Scottish sportsperson as 'British' to try and receive some of the kudos. Do you mean a bit like these theoretical headlines.... "Brit, Murray wins at Wimbledon" or "Scots player Murray loses again at Wimbledon" Ken :D	kenj (9738)
798221	2009-08-05 23:38:00	Do you mean a bit like these theoretical headlines.... "Brit, Murray wins at Wimbledon" or "Scots player Murray loses again at Wimbledon" Ken :D Sort of like "Aussie actor Russell Crowe wins Oscar" as opposed to "NZ born actor Russell Crowe arrested for phone beating" As for the act of union, wasn't that a scottish idea as the scottish parliament was broke after the south seas bubble?	Morgenmuffel (187)
798222	2009-08-06 00:44:00	Because we are an predominately Anglo Saxon people here in NZ its ok to rubbish our British culture and history. Try doing that to a minority culture/ country/religion here and you get your ass fried.	prefect (6291)
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