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| Thread ID: 102146 | 2009-08-08 12:11:00 | Telethon | Cheezels (14809) | PC World Chat |
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| 799610 | 2009-08-10 00:56:00 | feed these people and encourage them to breed even more.:horrified What people? Anyone can become poor. I had a friend who worked as a programmer. Earned loads and loads. Got married, had the huge wedding and honeymoon, bought a house, had a baby then medical disaster struck. Husband ran away, new boss decided she was "unreliable" and fired her, and next thing she was down at WINZ applying for assistance. Had to sell the house and move back in with her dad. If I had suggested such a thing a couple of years before, she would have laughed at me. **** happens. And often when you least expect it. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 799611 | 2009-08-10 01:02:00 | What people? Anyone can become poor. I had a friend who worked as a programmer. Earned loads and loads. Got married, had the huge wedding and honeymoon, bought a house, had a baby then medical disaster struck. Husband ran away, new boss decided she was "unreliable" and fired her, and next thing she was down at WINZ applying for assistance. Had to sell the house and move back in with her dad. If I had suggested such a thing a couple of years before, she would have laughed at me. **** happens. And often when you least expect it. Yup - that's why the welfare system is there to be a safety net. I don't think anybody here would object to someone receiving assistance when unforeseen circumstances like that pop up, or if someone is made redundant. The anti-welfare sentiment here is in regards to those who treat it as a career choice, rather than a temporary means to get by until they can find another job. |
somebody (208) | ||
| 799612 | 2009-08-10 01:42:00 | What people? Anyone can become poor. I had a friend who worked as a programmer. Earned loads and loads. Got married, had the huge wedding and honeymoon, bought a house, had a baby then medical disaster struck. Husband ran away, new boss decided she was "unreliable" and fired her, and next thing she was down at WINZ applying for assistance. Had to sell the house and move back in with her dad. If I had suggested such a thing a couple of years before, she would have laughed at me. **** happens. And often when you least expect it. And she is precisely the type of person that should be helped,we are talking pro loafers here,not the likes of your pal. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 799613 | 2009-08-10 03:43:00 | +1, agree with Cicero's last statement :) | Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 799614 | 2009-08-10 04:21:00 | +1, agree with Cicero's last statement :) +1 NZ has a full welfare backup, so ideally there should be no need for these types of charities anyway. I don't object to paying taxes, to pay for this, as it is like an insurance policy. I do however object paying taxes for paying for MPs to have free sky TV, personal maids to do their washing , free taxis and travel etc, unless it is part of their work. Any personal usage should come out of their wages. |
robbyp (2751) | ||
| 799615 | 2009-08-10 04:53:00 | +1 NZ has a full welfare backup, so ideally there should be no need for these types of charities anyway. I don't object to paying taxes, to pay for this, as it is like an insurance policy. I do however object paying taxes for paying for MPs to have free sky TV, personal maids to do their washing , free taxis and travel etc, unless it is part of their work. Any personal usage should come out of their wages. And then to add insult to injury,they get a 90% travel discount for the rest of their lives and god only knows what else. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 799616 | 2009-08-10 05:08:00 | And then to add insult to injury,they get a 90% travel discount for the rest of their lives and god only knows what else. That was abolished some time ago - it's only "grandparented" in for people who were eligible before the rules were changed. Roger Douglas happens to be one of the people who were around when the scheme was in force, and therefore could still keep it. In any case, government ministers claiming perks is less of a worry since they're actually doing some work - people who sit around all day doing nothing, and think it's their god given right to live off the dole are the ones that bug me the most. |
somebody (208) | ||
| 799617 | 2009-08-12 09:40:00 | KidsCan Charitable Trust (www.stuff.co.nz) last year spent less than 20 per cent of the money it raised on its programmes for disadvantaged children. | mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 799618 | 2009-08-12 09:47:00 | thats disgusting, glad i didnt give them money then | hueybot3000 (3646) | ||
| 799619 | 2009-08-12 22:23:00 | That's sick ... all the more reason why I'm of the mindset we should donate to something else like 3rd world hunger, or cancer research perhaps, or the teenage support hotline, stuff which has been around for a while now ... | Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
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