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| Thread ID: 102356 | 2009-08-16 20:36:00 | Shooter party in Oz calls the shots | prefect (6291) | PC World Chat |
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| 801703 | 2009-08-17 02:37:00 | We must assume you would deny mans instincts and wish to go with the do gooders thinking,you must think things through. You do try hard Cic, but your logic is poor today, and your assumptions faulty :) Edit: you still have not said why you want a shooters party here |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 801704 | 2009-08-17 05:19:00 | You do try hard Cic, but your logic is poor today, and your assumptions faulty :) Edit: you still have not said why you want a shooters party here To counter-act the likes of you who would disarm us. I killed 50 clay pigeons yesterday and thought old Ter would go on about how sorry he was for said pieons. Sorry if your wrong thinking Ter,seems to think I am wrong,and as yet that has never been found to be so. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 801705 | 2009-08-17 05:36:00 | Shooting on DOC land in NZ should be a right not a privilege. There's a perfectly good reason why you are not allowed to shoot as you please on DOC land. The presence of hunters will disturb the population of protected animals, directly or otherwise. For example you could unknowingly be stowing a rat in your ute, or a disease that could decimate the protected population of kakapo or kiwi. Even one rat in its lifetime could significantly reduce the number of kiwis in an area, or even wipe them out completely. Not only that any game animals you kill and leave behind may pose a health risk to said population of protected animals. Really, there is a perfectly sound reason as to why DOC land should remain hunter-free and as undisturbed as possible. We are trying to protect the endemic species of NZ that are becoming increasingly scarce. NZ is one of the leading countries in conservation and any move to legalise free uncontrolled hunting on DOC land will face massive opposition. |
qazwsxokmijn (102) | ||
| 801706 | 2009-08-17 05:45:00 | To counter-act the likes of you who would disarm us. I killed 50 clay pigeons yesterday and thought old Ter would go on about how sorry he was for said pieons. Sorry if your wrong thinking Ter,seems to think I am wrong,and as yet that has never been found to be so. Oh dear poor clay pigeons, never mind more can be made. I'm really just stating the facts as I see them, hunters enjoy the kill. There is no question of me denying man's basic instincts, no matter what definition of 'deny' is used, i.e not either condemning or trying to prevent. They also do not want all feral animals, deer, goat, pigs, possum killed because then they would no longer be able to enjoy the kill. Neither do recreational hunters keep the pest population under control, plenty of reports over the years to support that statement. I would like to see all such pests eradicated by whatever means as soon as possible, not in order that hunters can no longer enjoy the kill, but so that the flora can rejuvenate :) That's what being a do-gooder is....kill the pig.........kill the pig.............:clap Prefect's nonsense about shooting on DOC land means he knows little about it :) DOC welcomes hunters as a means of pest cont Umpteen places to shoot and enjoy a kill..... www.doc.govt.nz In the days of The Forest Service a permit was for 30 days, and you had to state where you were intending to hunt, it was also required if you took a dog tramping, though I only occasionally applied for one. Nowadays a permit is for 6 months, well at least in the Tararuas Edit: Just seen Gazworx nonsense, you can hunt most places, but dogs are not allowed in many. Just look at the DOC site Edit again: something wrong with the DOC site, try this www.doc.govt.nz |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 801707 | 2009-08-17 05:56:00 | There's a perfectly good reason why you are not allowed to shoot as you please on DOC land. The presence of hunters will disturb the population of protected animals, directly or otherwise. For example you could unknowingly be stowing a rat in your ute, or a disease that could decimate the protected population of kakapo or kiwi. Even one rat in its lifetime could significantly reduce the number of kiwis in an area, or even wipe them out completely. Not only that any game animals you kill and leave behind may pose a health risk to said population of protected animals. Really, there is a perfectly sound reason as to why DOC land should remain hunter-free and as undisturbed as possible. We are trying to protect the endemic species of NZ that are becoming increasingly scarce. NZ is one of the leading countries in conservation and any move to legalise free uncontrolled hunting on DOC land will face massive opposition. Really most of this is just nonsense |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 801708 | 2009-08-17 05:57:00 | Edit: Just seen Gazworx nonsense, you can hunt most places, but dogs are not allowed in many. Just look at the DOC site Edit again: something wrong with the DOC site, try this www.doc.govt.nz Yeah, you can still hunt on most places. Some sensitive areas are heavily regulated. What I take from prefect's comment was that no regulation was needed when hunting in these areas which is of course not a good idea at all. |
qazwsxokmijn (102) | ||
| 801709 | 2009-08-17 05:58:00 | Really most of this is just nonsense Which part? |
qazwsxokmijn (102) | ||
| 801710 | 2009-08-17 06:36:00 | Paragraph1...There's a perfectly good reason why you are not allowed to shoot as you please on DOC land. The presence of hunters will disturb the population of protected animals, directly or otherwise. Paragraph2.....For example you could unknowingly be stowing a rat in your ute, or a disease that could decimate the protected population of kakapo or kiwi. Even one rat in its lifetime could significantly reduce the number of kiwis in an area, or even wipe them out completely. Not only that any game animals you kill and leave behind may pose a health risk to said population of protected animals. Paragraph3.....Really, there is a perfectly sound reason as to why DOC land should remain hunter-free and as undisturbed as possible. We are trying to protect the endemic species of NZ that are becoming increasingly scarce. NZ is one of the leading countries in conservation and any move to legalise free uncontrolled hunting on DOC land will face massive opposition. What parts are nonsense? First I will concede there are a very few protected areas, such as predator free islands for example where your comments will apply. but as regards the vast majority of The DOC estate they do not. Paragraph1 Except for special areas, the public have right of access. The presence or otherwise of tramper/hunters/white-reebok tourists will have little or no affect on bird life. Those are the animmals we are talking about., including the ground birds. As the DOC website shows hunting is allowed with permits over most of the DOC estate, most of the time. Paragraph2 Having stowaway rats is only of significance as regards predator free islands, and mainland 'islands' such as Karori Wild Life Reserve, where you have to pass through a 'rat lock' and have any packs searched. If you have ever spent any time in the bush then you should be aware of bush rats being everywhere. Paragraph3 As I said DOC welcome hunters as a means of reducing pests such as deer pig and goat. DOC land is not hunter free now, so it remaining hunter free is a meaningless expression Hunters are not going to hunt Kiwi if there are no deer/pig :), they are helping to get rid of pests. Birds are the only endemic vertebrate species in New Zealand (apart from a bat). |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 801711 | 2009-08-17 06:37:00 | Same guys :pLOLOL :D | Greg (193) | ||
| 801712 | 2009-08-17 06:53:00 | And never the twain shall meet!! | Cicero (40) | ||
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