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| Thread ID: 102454 | 2009-08-19 13:30:00 | Judges do not make law. | Sweep (90) | PC World Chat |
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| 802610 | 2009-08-19 13:30:00 | home.nzcity.co.nz An example for Deane F. Judges do not make the law do they? One Judge wants a current law changed. This is what I said before in a previous thread. It is the members of parliament and their advisors that draft laws in my opinion. It is then over to various agencies to enforce a law and over to lawyers and the judiciary to interpret what was meant by a law. What did parliament mean given that one MP was actually asleep while the house was hopefully supposed to be working? This is on record and I have proof. |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 802611 | 2009-08-19 19:37:00 | Yes he should (and all of them) shut up and dish out the penalties he is paid to do. | Digby (677) | ||
| 802612 | 2009-08-19 19:39:00 | Yes, judges do make law "...by applying or extending established rules to novel circumstances... (Justice Michael McHugh, Aus) The judge in the article is doing exactly as he ought - recommending a specific change in the law to Parliament so that the law is able to reflect changes in society. |
Deane F (8204) | ||
| 802613 | 2009-08-19 20:29:00 | The problem in NZ is the judges here are all soft on criminals and dont really care about their victims. Its all about the victims. They are absolutely incapable of sentencing crooks to what the community expects. Thats why concerned citizens had to set up the sensible sentencing trust. If I was justice minister I would change the law so judges would have to sentence from a guideline book. If they started to get soft the punishment would be appealed, changed and the judge fired. The maximum sentence should be the norm if the crook is a repeat offender. If its the crooks first crime a little lesser punishment would be applied. I like USA if you have been to jail you are called a convicted felon with all its conatations. Here we nice to them which insults the victim. We call them career criminal. This judge should keep his beak shut and let the law makers sort it out after a referendum. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 802614 | 2009-08-19 21:14:00 | Will be interesting to see what these bird murderers get. Probably community service or something light like that. I reckon they should go to jail for at least a couple of years. :) |
Trev (427) | ||
| 802615 | 2009-08-19 22:31:00 | Actually Sweep, judges do make new law. A classic example is the right to sue your local council for negligently approving a shoddy house. The principles were established by the House of Lords in 1976 - it was new law. Dutton v Bognor Regis Urban District Council. In fact there is a famous NZ case against the Invercargill City Council where the Privy Council held the Council liable for a house which started to fall to pieces. |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 802616 | 2009-08-19 22:36:00 | Re: The judge in the article is doing exactly as he ought - recommending a specific change in the law to Parliament so that the law is able to reflect changes in society. Who the hell appointed Judges to assess and recommend the changes in society? They live in a closed sheltered society where people stand up when they enter the room, bow to them all the time, constantly rush to open doors for them and generally treat them as though they were gods. They need get the idea that they are civil servants, paid to do a job as laid down by parliament - many are failed lawyers who have taken the easy 9-5 job over striving to run a successful business. Reflect changes in society - crap. |
Scouse (83) | ||
| 802617 | 2009-08-19 22:54:00 | The whole idea of punishment for crime is a mystery to me. I am thinking of the larikins that drive around our streets tearing up the roads etc, seemingly free of any meaningful punishment. Then there are the Maori people who are asking for payment to ok R/C procedures,isn't that blackmail? |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 802618 | 2009-08-19 23:26:00 | Re: The judge in the article is doing exactly as he ought - recommending a specific change in the law to Parliament so that the law is able to reflect changes in society. Who the hell appointed Judges to assess and recommend the changes in society? They live in a closed sheltered society where people stand up when they enter the room, bow to them all the time, constantly rush to open doors for them and generally treat them as though they were gods. They need get the idea that they are civil servants, paid to do a job as laid down by parliament - many are failed lawyers who have taken the easy 9-5 job over striving to run a successful business. Reflect changes in society - crap. Couldnt have put it better myself. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 802619 | 2009-08-19 23:42:00 | Who the hell appointed Judges to assess and recommend the changes in society? They live in a closed sheltered society where people stand up when they enter the room, bow to them all the time, constantly rush to open doors for them and generally treat them as though they were gods. So you expect MPs who also live in a closed sheltered society to get the law right every time? If they could do that why are they always changing it? Why shouldn't Judges be able to make suggestions? Do you just dumbly do what you're told even when you know it doesn't work? |
PaulD (232) | ||
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