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| Thread ID: 102599 | 2009-08-25 10:48:00 | No Sky For This Guy. | Hitech (9024) | PC World Chat |
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| 804218 | 2009-08-26 10:32:00 | I worked in England with a guy who fell 5 meters off a scaffold, luckily he'd been to the pub at lunch time and was relaxed enough he just bounced, got up off the concrete and went back to work. | limepile (96) | ||
| 804219 | 2009-08-26 10:33:00 | Permanent anchor points are rated and tested, and do not fall out. (Very often) There are multiple rock solid temporary anchor points available, Every time I do training there are more and more gizmo's, and anything you can tie a rope to works damn fine. When I referred to the work van I wasn't kidding. Tie a rope to it, Throw it over the roof, Climb your ladder and attach rope grab before mounting the roof. Its only ignorance that makes people claim its too difficult to do, However if any twat drilled through your tiles looking for a timber slat to mount to then he is in the wrong job. In an extreme case you get in a mechanical lifting device. There are systems available for every type of location and site, But a rope with a knot in it is about as versatile as you can get. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 804220 | 2009-08-26 10:35:00 | i've been out of the industry for a long time, i don't know what the norm is now. i shall ask a mate. I'd say its the same now as its always been, I have seen no change in any industry until OSH started applying the pressure. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 804221 | 2009-08-26 10:36:00 | But wouldn't you need heaps of permanent anchor points all along the roof on a rectangle shaped house? Yep the poms are legendary at drinking bulk pints of piss, some bags of chips at lunchtime and going back to work. I totally dont think there is enough strength in the roof of my **** Neil home spec house to a make an anchor point especially for a fat hua aerial installer. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 804222 | 2009-08-26 10:37:00 | Also keep in mind we are talking fall restraint, Not fall arrest. The idea is that you have no slack in the system so you can't actually fall from your point of work and you never shock load your anchor points or gear.Your simply tied in place. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 804223 | 2009-08-26 10:42:00 | But wouldn't you need heaps of permanent anchor points all along the roof on a rectangle shaped house? Nope, If your working in one place (like installing an antenna) then a single anchor point is all you would need. If your working over a larger area then you have your anchor set higher so you have some side to side movement, Its just there to stop you falling over the edge, If its a bigger roof you can set up 2 anchor points and run a lifeline between the two and then clip onto it with your adjustable lanyard, or if your a fan of ropes, just throw a few over various parts of the roof. You can un-click off one and be hooked to the other. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 804224 | 2009-08-26 10:57:00 | i can just Imagen the amount of ropes run over a house so you can walk from one end to the other ! all i expect sky and city plus the other companies will do is to simply put it in their manuals, maybe roll out a few training days but that will be it. enough to please the pen pushers. i doubt many installers will bother buying and using the gear. if they kill themselves their is no boss to come back on. thats kinda the point of these companies using contractors/subcontractors so they don't have the liabilities. |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 804225 | 2009-08-26 11:39:00 | Pfft - OSH will be banning houses more than 1.2M high soon anyway. (I read it in the tea leaves.) Also, under the No Impingement On Views and Beautifying The Neighbourhood legislation to be introduced "real soon now" all aerials will have to be subterranean - the only hold-up is a bit of a set-to with the lexicographers. This will all happen once the country is back on it's feet thanks to the cycleways. You may wonder just how cycleways can get us back on our feet? Simple, - - Lucas bikes. |
R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 804226 | 2009-08-26 22:42:00 | If any worker today hasn't taken all steps to isolate, minimise or eliminate the hazards faced in doing his job, he is not only in breach of the law, but is also an idiot. What some may have done in the past in England or elsewhere is totally irrelevant. HSE law is the best effort we can make to protect some wenkers from themselves, as well as protect good workers from wenker employers. | Richard (739) | ||
| 804227 | 2009-08-26 23:48:00 | i can just Imagen the amount of ropes run over a house so you can walk from one end to the other ! all i expect sky and city plus the other companies will do is to simply put it in their manuals, maybe roll out a few training days but that will be it. enough to please the pen pushers. i doubt many installers will bother buying and using the gear. if they kill themselves their is no boss to come back on. thats kinda the point of these companies using contractors/subcontractors so they don't have the liabilities. Sigh. I'm guessing 3 ropes, how many did you have in mind? And the principle is responsible, as is everyone else, Sky cannot contract out of the law.Its their site, they are orginsing the work and taking the money. |
Metla (12) | ||
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