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Thread ID: 102592	2009-08-25 07:04:00	Question about completing secondary school	forums12345 (15197)	PC World Chat

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804102	2009-08-27 07:19:00	Rather than counting the credits, why not calculate how many Excellence credits that you can achieve and the ways to obtain them?	Renmoo (66)
804103	2009-08-28 04:15:00	Heheheh mate getting excellence is not that easy. I know my ability for me gaining achieve is fine. I want to gain like 75 level 3 ncea credits and then I would be so happy. Is gaining achieved in 75 ncea credits a hard task you know if you only have like 5 months to gain it in.	forums12345 (15197)
804104	2009-08-28 13:22:00	Heheheh mate getting excellence is not that easy. I know my ability for me gaining achieve is fine. I want to gain like 75 level 3 ncea credits and then I would be so happy. Is gaining achieved in 75 ncea credits a hard task you know if you only have like 5 months to gain it in. I appreciate that you are struggling to achieve the necessary credits, but how much time are you really putting into your studies outside of school? It is always easy to find something else to occupy your time, but you have to make the sacrifices up front if you want to get ahead. I suspect that leaving school right now would not only leave you no better off, but also without any effective means to improve your future. The degree of self discipline required to succeed as an early leaver outside the secondary school system is immense. Some strike it lucky, for others it is a long hard graft. I stuffed around in my sixth form year, failed UE and left school. Sure it was a long time ago, but the principles don't change. It was a rude awakening for me and for the next five or six years I did 3-4 nights of night school a week to learn my trade and to get a diploma in business management. I had no social life, was up at 5:30 every morning to catch the train to work for 8:30, got home at 11:30pm for dinner and repeated it all next day. I finally passed all my trade exams and also graduated with a management diploma. It all paid off, but I wish I had stayed at school and done another two years there, repeating the 6th and going on to the 7th. I never heard anybody say "Gee, I wish I'd left school earlier instead of getting all these qualifications." Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
804105	2009-08-28 22:16:00	Yes it is hard leaving school early, I left in the early 1980's, my school in England had no 6th form never did have (does now though). So i'm kicked out of school at 15, can't work full time under age, can't claim unemployment under age. I learnt to windsurf on borrowed crap gear. So what do you do when you leave school with virtually no quals? I have been a builder for the last 25 years, i'm in my early 40's and my body is just about stuffed. I have back problems, a shoulder problem that required major surgery to only partially fix and now I am having to study so I can get out of my trade. But my trade allowed me to travel the world working where I liked and then to finally emigrate. There are good and bad sides to everything	gary67 (56)
804106	2009-08-29 06:55:00	I see. Keep the comments coming.	forums12345 (15197)
804107	2009-08-29 22:44:00	I still had a great life in the career I ended up with but now I'm paying for not being able to stay at school. Just remember Polytech/ uni is harder than 7th form school	gary67 (56)
804108	2009-08-30 03:24:00	eye sea	forums12345 (15197)
804109	2009-08-30 23:45:00	I still had a great life in the career I ended up with but now I'm paying for not being able to stay at school. Just remember Polytech/ uni is harder than 7th form school Also if you aren't self motivated, you wont last at university and they will actually not accept your application to enrol if you fail too many courses. Unlike school where teachers encourage you to do work and get on your case if you fail to hand something in, there is no such thing at university. No one cares* if you fail, no one cares* if you don't attend lectures, no one cares* if you don't do the work, it is all on you. *Except if you fail epically and they flag you in the enrolment system to not accept your enrolment unless you can prove you have done something outside of university to demonstrate you have what it takes to pass.	utopian201 (6245)
804110	2009-08-31 09:10:00	I still had a great life in the career I ended up with but now I'm paying for not being able to stay at school. Just remember Polytech/ uni is harder than 7th form school Ain't that the truth, especially when you are doing it four nights a week after a full day's work. It is serious stuff and there are no touchy-feely "never mind, try again next week" opportunities on offer, or make-up classes if you skip a lesson. You do it under your own steam or you fail, simple as that and the drop-outs just vanish, you never see them again. I must admit that I neglected to say that my post-college study successes ultimately won me a fully paid scholarship to study my trade in England for 12 months, which I effectively converted into a world tour once my studies were over. I probably wouldn't have followed that particular employment path had I stayed at school, but who knows how much better off I might have been by now? Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
804111	2009-08-31 11:10:00	Ain't that the truth, especially when you are doing it four nights a week after a full day's work. It is serious stuff and there are no touchy-feely "never mind, try again next week" opportunities on offer, or make-up classes if you skip a lesson. You do it under your own steam or you fail, simple as that and the drop-outs just vanish, you never see them again. I must admit that I neglected to say that my post-college study successes ultimately won me a fully paid scholarship to study my trade in England for 12 months, which I effectively converted into a world tour once my studies were over. I probably wouldn't have followed that particular employment path had I stayed at school, but who knows how much better off I might have been by now? Cheers Billy 8-{) Many people, including me, had no idea what we wanted to do when leaving school and I, for one, should have done more homework back in 1957. I left school at age 15. Back then I could never get the hang of Maths and my last result there was around 30%. There was never a problem with English especially in comprehension as I read a lot. Sometimes in the middle of the night by torchlight under the blanket. Even now I manage to get through between four and five books a week that I pick up from the local library and I admit to reading a very few of those more than once. The interesting part was I managed 95% in Chemistry and 86% in Physics in the same exam. One would think that if you could not do Maths you would be sadly lacking in the other two skills but not so for me. I guess I look more for symbols rather than figures. Algebra for me was easier than Arithmetic Anyway I am now trying to make up for my lack of formal education by getting a level three NCEA Certificate in Computing. I need 60 credits to pass. There are 12 modules each of which are worth 5 credits. Currently I have 15 credits and I started in the second semester. I have no intention of going on to Uni and I am only doing this so I have a piece of paper to hang on my wall. The course is free and online and I only have to go out of my abode for assessments. I have no School Cert or UE qualifications. I find that I usually spend between 25-35 hours a week on what I want to get. The last assessment I had a grade of 97.5 and put back to 97.0. Not that I am really worried as the rest of my life does NOT depend on my results. Then, on the other hand, there are some very well QUALIFIED people who have to dig ditches because they have no "common sense" and can't get on with others in any event. Possibly the QUALIFICATIONS are valid or not. These days you could get all sorts of qualifications from the Uni of XYZ I suspect. We already, in New Zealand, have had people with this sort of qualification. "But hang on you claim to have a PhD so where is the thesis." Not going into names there by the way. Also there are well qualified people in New Zealand who will do the work and can but can't get a job for various reasons. My best advice to forums12345 is to change the attitude and not keep on asking questions on how to get the QUALIFICATIONS really fast. It may come that way if there is an aptitude but any employer worth their salt will have a fair idea whether you will be an asset or a liability. Sorry if I ranted to those that are not interested. Consider it my attempt to save a person from a life on the dole please.	Sweep (90)
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