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| Thread ID: 102570 | 2009-08-24 10:19:00 | Light Smacking - Yeah Right | Twelvevolts (5457) | PC World Chat |
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| 803905 | 2009-08-24 11:14:00 | I do! having only been old enough to vote once I havent had the chance to vote for labour, its on my things to do before I die list, right down the bottom with mate with a seagul | hueybot3000 (3646) | ||
| 803906 | 2009-08-24 20:27:00 | labor brought the law in and lost election big time. National may lose next election if they dont change the law back. People do care being told by the state how to bring up their offspring. I would vote labor if someone gave me a 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000 dollars. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 803907 | 2009-08-24 22:16:00 | They can get you quite cheaply!!! I would want much more than that. Ken :D:D |
kenj (9738) | ||
| 803908 | 2009-08-24 22:23:00 | I find it unbelievable that they spend 9 mil of our tax money,get an answer,then say,very nice now bugger off. You have to feel sorry for these hard working genius's. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 803909 | 2009-08-24 23:38:00 | I find it unbelievable it was done in the first place. | rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 803910 | 2009-08-24 23:51:00 | .....but Bradford is confused with smacking\abuse, did you miss that she didn't say smack, but assault or hit!....in the news commentary tonight! No Sol, she isn't confused. The word "smack" does not appear anywhere in the law. It is a form of assault and assault is unlawful. Section 59 provides an exception, a defence for parents permiting mild assaults on their children as part of parenting. NZ is a first world country yet we have alarming rates of child abuse. Anything which sends the message that hitting kids is wrong can only be a good thing. |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 803911 | 2009-08-24 23:52:00 | So will we be back to square one no I wonder. PJ | Poppa John (284) | ||
| 803912 | 2009-08-25 00:08:00 | 1. It is not known how many voting papers were stolen from letter boxes by the pro-smacking brigade and used to boost their vote, so considerable doubt must be cast on the referendum result. The religious nutters have had their day and should be ignored until they obey the law. 2. Many of the people in the pro-smacking group are not good parents if they are prepared to assault their children (if you hit an adult you will be prosecuted). 3. Perhaps some reputable scientists can come up with tests to determine who is suitable to have children, and only those that pass the tests would be permitted to produce a family. One sees so many examples of neglect and violence among parents (mainly in certain ethnic groups) and this becomes an ongoing problem through the generations. 4. The use of violence against children may, in some cases, not produce physical injury but certainly affects their outlook on life and their future behaviour. Just because an adult is a sadist does not mean they should produce sadistic young people. |
rodb (1561) | ||
| 803913 | 2009-08-25 00:23:00 | 1. It is not known how many voting papers were stolen from letter boxes by the pro-smacking brigade and used to boost their vote, so considerable doubt must be cast on the referendum result. The religious nutters have had their day and should be ignored until they obey the law. 2. Many of the people in the pro-smacking group are not good parents if they are prepared to assault their children (if you hit an adult you will be prosecuted). 3. Perhaps some reputable scientists can come up with tests to determine who is suitable to have children, and only those that pass the tests would be permitted to produce a family. One sees so many examples of neglect and violence among parents (mainly in certain ethnic groups) and this becomes an ongoing problem through the generations. 4. The use of violence against children may, in some cases, not produce physical injury but certainly affects their outlook on life and their future behaviour. Just because an adult is a sadist does not mean they should produce sadistic young people. 1. Evidence please (even a link to a news report about this). Sounds like bullshit to me. 2. There is a very large difference between a smack to correct a wayward child and an assault. The difficulty lies in interpreting the law. From a legal standpoint a smack is an assault, but 88% of New Zealanders (if we dismiss your unproven and unsupported allegation in point 1), believe there is a difference between what constitutes an assault and what constitutes correcting the behaviour of a child who won't listen. 3. More social engineering won't help the situation. It will just alienate large sectors of society who don't like (rightly, IMHO) being told what to do by a faceless, 'we-know-what's-best-for-you' organisation. That's why Helen's lot got kicked out last time. 4. More bullshit and jellybeans. I was smacked as a child (even got the dreaded slipper and occasionally the wooden spoon, when circumstances necessitated it) and I am a normal, well-adjusted functioning member of society with no violence issues (or court convictions of any kind). My outlook on life is also normal and not affected in any way by the corporal punishment meted out to me when I was a naughty boy all those years ago. |
johcar (6283) | ||
| 803914 | 2009-08-25 00:31:00 | So will we be back to square one no I wonder. PJ Indeed minus $9000000. With a lot of happy do gooders. |
Cicero (40) | ||
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