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1449916 2018-05-26 06:23:00 Well SWMBO is throwing a right tantrum because Microsoft have thoughtfully updated her Computer to VER 1803 (Build 17134.48) and stuffed her Webcam again, plus, lost all her Games this time as a bonus.

Ok, the Webcam issue is well documented and I left a short-cut to the Win 7 Driver on the desktop because nearly every Win 10 update turned the Camera upside down so I had to reinstall the old Win 7 driver to fix things.

However, this time the Win 7 driver doesn’t fix anything, and all I get is a message saying another programme has control of the Webcam, try closing other programme or words to that effect.

Problem is the only programme open, or uses the Webcam, is Skype, which makes me wonder if the other User is actually Microsoft themselves sending Webcam information back to the Mothership.

Anyway, to stop the whining, has anybody else experienced this problem.

Oh, I haven’t addressed the Games problem yet but would be keen to be pointed in the right direction by someone who has.

Computer: a ASUS K52F Laptop with Chicony CNF_9085 camera.
B.M. (505)
1449917 2018-05-26 06:39:00 The reason for the Web Cam being upside down is Because ASUS actually installed it upside down in the computer and requires the W7 software to right it back the correct way ( its well documented) as it goes back several years. See 2nd post www.tenforums.com Edited: in post #6 on that link someone has posted a reg alteration, no idea if it works or not.

Whats "using the Cam" open task manager and have a look. You may need to run the driver as admin (the same as some alterations in Linux require)

The Games -- If you are referring t the standard games installed in W7, they were removed after W7 (W8 onwards). But you can easily reinstall them. I got this file on my USB drive that I use all the time.

windows-7-games-for-windows-10-anniversary-update-and-above/ (winaero.com)

Download the zip file, unzip and run the exe. WARNING watch what you are clicking there are a couple of other programs that may be installed ( from memory). PS un-tick the internet games I don't think they work anyway anymore.
wainuitech (129)
1449918 2018-05-26 07:05:00 Just adding to above HINT: -- Once the games are installed, if you go to the start - they will be listed, right click any one of them, More - Open File location - in the menu/address bar, click on Programs - Then on games folder, right click send to - desktop create shortcut and the links to all the games are in one place ( on desktop) You can change the Folder Icon to what ever you want ( should you want something different than the default Icon) wainuitech (129)
1449919 2018-05-26 07:39:00 I would just put the wonder OS Mint on her laptop gary67 (56)
1449920 2018-05-26 08:01:00 I would just put the wonder OS Mint on her laptop DONT go there Gary ;)

Lets be civilized for once.
wainuitech (129)
1449921 2018-05-26 08:52:00 I wonder if civility will go both ways? linw (53)
1449922 2018-05-26 21:24:00 The reason for the Web Cam being upside down is Because ASUS actually installed it upside down in the computer and requires the W7 software to right it back the correct way ( its well documented) as it goes back several years . See 2nd post . tenforums . com/drivers-hardware/15578-asus-webcam-driver . html" target="_blank">www . tenforums . com Edited: in post #6 on that link someone has posted a reg alteration, no idea if it works or not .

Whats "using the Cam" open task manager and have a look . You may need to run the driver as admin (the same as some alterations in Linux require)

The Games -- If you are referring t the standard games installed in W7, they were removed after W7 (W8 onwards) . But you can easily reinstall them . I got this file on my USB drive that I use all the time .

windows-7-games-for-windows-10-anniversary-update-and-above/ ( . com/blog/windows-7-games-for-windows-10-anniversary-update-and-above/" target="_blank">winaero . com)

Download the zip file, unzip and run the exe . WARNING watch what you are clicking there are a couple of other programs that may be installed ( from memory) . PS un-tick the internet games I don't think they work anyway anymore .

Yes Wainui, the problem with Win 10 and Webcams is well documented, is very old and never been addressed by Microsoft . You will note that the link you provided is dated August 2015 and I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect Microsoft to have addressed the problem by now . :rolleyes:

However, the latest problem is quite different in nature . Now instead of having a picture upside down which the reinstallation of the Win 7 Driver would correct, we don’t have any picture at all .

The problem only occurred after the 1803 update and I’ve found, courtesy of Google, others have had the same problem, so I’ll follow some of their suggestions and get back if I find a solution .


The games can wait for the moment . :D
B.M. (505)
1449923 2018-05-26 22:23:00 Yes Wainui, the problem with Win 10 and Webcams is well documented, is very old and never been addressed by Microsoft. You will note that the link you provided is dated August 2015 and I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect Microsoft to have addressed the problem by now. :rolleyes:

However, the latest problem is quite different in nature. Now instead of having a picture upside down which the reinstallation of the Win 7 Driver would correct, we don’t have any picture at all.

The problem only occurred after the 1803 update and I’ve found, courtesy of Google, others have had the same problem, so I’ll follow some of their suggestions and get back if I find a solution.


The games can wait for the moment. :D The problem as advised in the article is not Microsoft's Problem. Microsoft put out STANDARD drivers for many different cams. The Problem is ASUS has put the cam in the lid upside down on purpose, other manufactures put in cams the right way up.

Yes the article is dated 2015, that's when the problem that ASUS have created first started. SO WHY didn't they Fix it ?

My Sons ASUS Laptop works perfectly fine, the CAM is the right way up and works as it should, thats been upgraded through several OS's.

So the question is Why should Microsoft make a special driver just for one other company when the company its self (ASUS) cant be bothered fixing THEIR own created problem. As you have already pointed out, the Drivers for the cam are W7, and ASUS haven't updated for their hardware. ASUS should be providing a working Driver to MS.

The other Option which would cure the problem. Put the Laptop Back to W7. It wont change back to W10 as that boat has long sailed.

You can always do a fresh Install of W7, download the drivers from ASUS- and away you go.

Just looked up the laptop, ASUS stopped supporting it after W7. The drivers available are from XP- W7.
wainuitech (129)
1449924 2018-05-26 22:45:00 Have you tried altering the reg as per the other post ?

Option 5 (dated 2018) ugetfix.com

In Option 2 suggests getting drivers-ASUS problem have not upgrade ;)


Keep in mind that you have to download drivers only from manufacturer’s website. Third-party websites might contain corrupted or even malicious drivers that might harm the system.
wainuitech (129)
1449925 2018-05-26 23:04:00 There was another way of fixing this. The inf file for the camera used to be the prob. You had to change an entry save it. Then reload the inf file to fix it

I remember telling someone, somewhere else how to fix it. And yup, it was a known issue with ASUS laptops, like 5-10 yrs ago
Speedy Gonzales (78)
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