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1449946 2018-05-28 02:09:00 One extra line in those bat files works wonders, sure the original stop service is there, but it did often restart again.

After adding the line never had it restart until its been told to.

sc config wuauserv start= disabled

Ive manually disabled that service on a few PC's, it just re-enabled itself not long later

Theres a very long thread here , with some clever ideas .
www.tenforums.com

I now just accept forced updates as part of Win10(Home) . :-)
1101 (13337)
1449947 2018-05-28 02:36:00 The problem is the manufactures often dont give a rats arse after they sell you the laptop/printer/phone/widget.
Sometimes abandoned by the manufacturer with a year or so. No further driver updates or bios updates.

Owners of that hardware have every right to be p8ssed off, but they put the blame on MS rather than on the manufacturer where it belongs .

Sorry 1101 but I can’t reconcile that.

If the Hardware was working perfectly and the new Software broke it, then surely it’s not the Hardware’s fault.

What you are saying is that if a Petrol Company was to change the octane ratings of their petrol, then the car manufactures should be obliged to fix the cars to run on it.

Or, if your Power Company was to decide it was in their best interest to feed Direct Current instead of Alternating Current, then it was up to the Appliance Manufactures to remedy the situation.

Personally, I can’t see the Car Companies or Appliance Manufactures showing any more interest than Hardware Manufactures when it comes to accommodating a faulty product. :D
B.M. (505)
1449948 2018-05-28 04:40:00 Sorry 1101 but I can’t reconcile that.



how about this then. An issue Ive come across a few times on a few different printers.

A fairly new printer (and some old) work perfectly in Win7
Supply a Brand new Win10 PC. Printer driver doesnt work (prints 1 page only then nothing, scan works OK).
HP(cough cough) dont offer any new drivers or printer software . The customer is forced to replace the printer , its only 2 years old (yes that happened)

Whos's to blame. I'd say the Printer manufacturer . They dont care .
And in general, perhaps if hardware drivers were better written, perhaps they wouldnt be so easily affected by updates .

Ive seen Printer drivers made unusable by an IE update. Blame MS or blame HP for shoddy drivers ?
That driver was 'fixed' not by HP, but by a Software developer who wanted his printer to work & he uploaded the fix to forums for others to use.
The issue was poorly written driver software. Do we blame MS for updating IE ?

Using a better car example. GPS in your car, either built in or addon. 1-2 years later , you find you cant get map updates for it.
Do you blame the govt for improving NZ's roads or councils for adding new roads and making some roads one way. Or blame the GPS manufacturer for not giving updates .
That GPS worked perfectly before the govt built all these new roads. Now you get sent the wrong way down one way streets
:)
1101 (13337)
1449949 2018-05-28 05:01:00 or BM's famous upside down webcam.
Manufacturer installs webcams upside down. They write special drivers to flip the image back up.

Now, that manufacturer knows , that any generic driver installed via updates will make the cam unusable.
Its up to that manufacturer to make sure that never happens , as its well known to all that MS do push out driver updates
The manufacturer doesnt care, otherwise they would have found a way to make sure that generic webcam drivers arnt installed .

www.asus.com
1101 (13337)
1449950 2018-05-28 06:12:00 how about this then. An issue Ive come across a few times on a few different printers.

I’m sorry 1101 but I remain unrepentant and still place the burden of responsibility to write the driver software with the OS programme writers.

As an example, few, if any peripheral manufactures provide any drivers at all for Linux, yet every peripheral I’ve tried on Linux Mint just works.

How can a bunch of mug amateurs do it when the smart Alec’s can’t?

Which raises another *****.

I got a notification from Vodafone advising that I was approaching my Broadband limit which came as a shock as I usually use less than half.

Investigation showed that between the hours of Midnight and 2am on the 26th of this month some 38 GB of my Bandwidth had been used.

You guessed, SWMBO had left her computer on and the thieves at Microsoft had seized the opportunity and updated her computer stuffing things as they went.

But that aside 38GB for an OS, fair go. :eek:

8854
B.M. (505)
1449951 2018-05-28 06:13:00 or BM's famous upside down webcam.
Manufacturer installs webcams upside down. They write special drivers to flip the image back up.

Now, that manufacturer knows , that any generic driver installed via updates will make the cam unusable.
Its up to that manufacturer to make sure that never happens , as its well known to all that MS do push out driver updates
The manufacturer doesnt care, otherwise they would have found a way to make sure that generic webcam drivers arnt installed .

www.asus.com Just adding to this, Its not actually Microsoft that make the drivers. The Only Microsoft drivers are for their own Hardware.

The Drivers in relation to the ASUS cam actually come from ASUS, which are then supplied to Microsoft. The Cam in question, the drivers for that model were stopped with W7. After that ASUS changed the drivers, so whats put out is what is supplied by the original manufacture.

The Following article explains it: www.howtogeek.com


The default drivers Microsoft provides are stripped down and a bit older, but they’re written by your device manufacturer — not Microsoft themselves

The section Titled "How Manufacturer-Provided Drivers Are Different" needs to be read. Basically ASUS had to create a special non standard Cam Driver for their upside down cam, Once they stopped it, the newer ones That are now supplied to Microsoft dont have the ability to flip the cam, so blame ASUS for not supplying working drivers to Microsoft.

Microsoft only put out what they are supplied.
wainuitech (129)
1449952 2018-05-28 06:22:00 But that aside 38GB for an OS, fair go. :eek:

8854

February /March is Higher overall and there were no upgrades from MS at that time. Other months are not exactly low either. If you're with vodafone you may be on an old plan. Was at a persons place on saturday, they were paying more for their limited usage ( like yourself) than I'm paying for unlimited and a LOT LOT faster. If you call them you should get better options for cheaper.
wainuitech (129)
1449953 2018-05-28 06:25:00 As far as I know MS now uses a torrent like service to update computers and if you don't set up not to do this your computer will use your bandwidth to feed other computers with the updates. lol. Hence the large bandwidth use. zqwerty (97)
1449954 2018-05-28 06:33:00 Its no good the Ostrich of the North aka BM won't listen as only he knows everything in the entire world better than anyone else gary67 (56)
1449955 2018-05-28 06:35:00 or BM's famous upside down webcam.
Manufacturer installs webcams upside down. They write special drivers to flip the image back up.

Now, that manufacturer knows , that any generic driver installed via updates will make the cam unusable.
Its up to that manufacturer to make sure that never happens , as its well known to all that MS do push out driver updates
The manufacturer doesnt care, otherwise they would have found a way to make sure that generic webcam drivers arnt installed .

www.asus.com

Non no no 1101, :) Microsoft were well aware of the matter and there was no problem until Win10.

After all the fix is to install the Win7 driver which is pure irony.

But don't worry too much about my problems, whose fault is THIS? (www.thurrott.com)
B.M. (505)
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