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Thread ID: 146381	2018-07-18 00:05:00	I don't have a partner - I have a wife.	Roscoe (6288)	PC World Chat

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1451720	2018-07-18 21:36:00	You are quite right in your earlier post piroska, but like I said earlier we are all different. Your gay couple's relationship you mentioned is fine with me. Whatever rings their bells. I am comfortable with our marriage. I do find the use of the words "marriage, husband and wife" unusual to use in a gay relationship. Most unusual why a gay person wants to use the norm. Ken ;)	kenj (9738)
1451721	2018-07-18 21:36:00	I'll point you to a book: Ian Mortimer: The Time Travellers Guide to Medieval England The whole concept (even before this) WAS religious and one of ownership. Woman had little choice in the matter, if you didn't find someone to marry, one was assigned, ditto if he died later...you had a certain time to do it all over, often without choice of who. They could not inherit, nor own anything at all. Even the rich.... It was quite acceptable for the man to treat them how they liked, beat them, rape them, whatever. If your husband was say, a criminal, you too were hung along with him, as naturally you participated, even if technically you didn't. Ditto debts. White dresses? What did that mean? Did the man need to be in white? Of course not. The father giving the daughter away? Ownership.... Now none of it means anything, at least in NZ. Why? Because some people decided it could be a choice, and changed the laws. Women could inherit, they could be protected should the man beat, rape her. She did not belong to anyone except herself. She was not responsible for her husbands crimes (unless proven she really did participate) Should he die or they split, she could survive without needing to do it again. Should she decided not have kids at all, well now it's her choice. Should she decide to shack up with another woman instead, well it's her choice. Ditto the men... Yet, despite these new thoughts - and laws, you hang on to the concept of only marriage is proper. Why? If it isn't religion, then it sure is ownership. Or if you are married but don't really care what anyone else chooses to do - with their partners, well fine. But clinging to some old idea.....it's dodgy I'm sorry. Perhaps women shouldn't work outside the home still? Perhaps they should, still be thought of as incapable of even learning anything other than embroidery and watercolour painting, along with domestic chores. It's also a control thing. In the animal kingdom, some species can and do breed and exist without males at all. No not just insects and fish, komodo dragons for instance.... What does that tell you? So much for the importance of men. Although I am quite happy with mine.....married or not. He had married twice before. Te first time round, she left and he was forced to hire a PI to prove adultery. Because that was the only way to divorce then. He didn't think much of it, and fortunately his ex made it easy to have the evidence obtained, as she wished to get on with her new guy. How stupid. And if she had just left and not found another? Bugger... Wife number 2 left too, he let her take the lot and went. We weren't going to marry, I was happy with it, except we were made to, by my religious dad banning contact with my mum and brother until it happened. There you go, religion.	piroska (17583)
1451722	2018-07-19 01:49:00	I do find the use of the words "marriage, husband and wife" unusual to use in a gay relationship. Most unusual why a gay person wants to use the norm. That implies that somehow gay people aren't normal, which they sure as hell are.	pcuser42 (130)
1451723	2018-07-19 03:37:00	That implies that somehow gay people aren't normal, which they sure as hell are. 1.7% - 4.75% of the population depending who's stats you believe. I guess it depends how one defines normal. And just to be clear I have no problem with gay people in fact I could not care less about anyones sexual preferences. I have no interest what anyone else, gay or straight, wishes to do in their own private lives I would prefer, however, that they keep their private behaviour to themselves and not try to impose their personal views on the rest of the world.	CliveM (6007)
1451724	2018-07-19 03:50:00	'HWDAHIT = He Who Does As He Is Told' I like that. If only... :clap It's not unlike using the term "Ms" when they think they don't want to offend someone. That often resulted in offending those who wanted to be called Miss or Mrs. Sigh...you can't win.	Marnie (4574)
1451725	2018-07-19 03:59:00	To hell with all this PC bull$h1t!! I have a wife :)	Zippity (58)
1451726	2018-07-19 04:27:00	That implies that somehow gay people aren't normal, which they sure as hell are. As I said... "Whatever rings their bells" I don't have a problem with what people do in private. One of my most respected and liked friends came out when in his late fifties. It did not change my feelings about him at all. He died about 5 years ago and I remember him as a true friend. However, I feel that a percentage of gay people flaunt their sexuality to try and shock straight people. That goes down like a bucket of cold sick with me. As far as the using the titles husband, wife and marriage goes, is it not like calling, cauliflower as broccoli? Or black as white et al?... could they not use other words maybe? Or do they use them just because it is their rights to do what they want and to hell with everyone else. Ken ;)	kenj (9738)
1451727	2018-07-19 04:59:00	a percentage of gay people flaunt their sexuality to try and shock straight people. That goes down like a bucket of cold sick with me. ) Yep. True. However wife or husband is generally a term that implies the old school married. I say partner quite often.	piroska (17583)
1451728	2018-07-19 05:09:00	I guess I am "old school" then. Ken :)	kenj (9738)
1451729	2018-07-19 07:40:00	bitsandpieces.us	piroska (17583)
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