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Thread ID: 146221	2018-05-26 06:23:00	Win 10 again.	B.M. (505)	Press F1

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1449936	2018-05-27 10:23:00	I see, but this is what you said previously, no If’s, no Buts. 8853 However, your instructions are as helpful to the man on the street as THIS (www.theguardian.com). All I ask for is an operating system that works without me having to design it. I said you had to have pro to use the inbuilt options, Home doesn't have the options ( its cut down).You even posted the exact wording, guess you stuffed that one didn't ya. It can be made to stop updates. Thats why I did the video, anyone can write text, but actually showing and proving you cant deny it. I proved it, and you simply are being a total ARSE. Again proved you wrong and you cant take it. So as before you have been given the tools use them. Mind you right clicking a file may be out of your limited ability.	wainuitech (129)
1449937	2018-05-27 20:53:00	I said you had to have pro to use the inbuilt options, Home doesn't have the options ( its cut down).You even posted the exact wording, guess you stuffed that one didn't ya. It can be made to stop updates. Thats why I did the video, anyone can write text, but actually showing and proving you cant deny it. I proved it, and you simply are being a total ARSE. Again proved you wrong and you cant take it. So as before you have been given the tools use them. Mind you right clicking a file may be out of your limited ability. I thought what you wrote in kenj’s desire to have a basic OS with all the upgrades turned off was quite clear. Here it is again: You can, BUT (there's always a BUT) You have to have the Pro version. That's why you pay a little extra for pro, you can have the options of complete control on just about everything. The cut down ( & cheaper) Home doesn't have the options. My understanding of that is if you have Windows 10 Home you can’t turn the damn updates or upgrades off. More specifically the average user can’t. So to put this matter to bed, can the average user turn off the upgrades and updates on Windows 10 Home version? "Yes" or "No".	B.M. (505)
1449938	2018-05-27 21:08:00	Ha ha so you expect a software manufacturer to solve an engineering fault again, you so funny you should be on the stage.	gary67 (56)
1449939	2018-05-27 22:05:00	So to put this matter to bed, can the average user turn off the upgrades and updates on Windows 10 Home version? "Yes" or "No". No. Simple answer. As MS intended. Even with Pro , updates can only be postponed . Even then, MS could just push them through regardless (they have a past history of doing just that) MS are actively closing off the previously working ways to stop WinUpdates. There are ways, but the av user wouldn't be comfortable doing it .	1101 (13337)
1449940	2018-05-27 22:08:00	Ha ha so you expect a software manufacturer to solve an engineering fault again, you so funny you should be on the stage. No engineering fault at all. The engineering worked fine prior to the Software update. Try again with some other lame excuse. :lol:	B.M. (505)
1449941	2018-05-27 22:10:00	Ha ha so you expect a software manufacturer to solve an engineering fault again, you so funny you should be on the stage . The problem is the manufactures often dont give a rats arse after they sell you the laptop/printer/phone/widget . Sometimes abandoned by the manufacturer with a year or so . No further driver updates or bios updates . Owners of that hardware have every right to be p8ssed off, but they put the blame on MS rather than on the manufacturer where it belongs .	1101 (13337)
1449942	2018-05-27 23:01:00	I thought what you wrote in kenj’s desire to have a basic OS with all the upgrades turned off was quite clear. Here it is again: My understanding of that is if you have Windows 10 Home you can’t turn the damn updates or upgrades off. More specifically the average user can’t. So to put this matter to bed, can the average user turn off the upgrades and updates on Windows 10 Home version? "Yes" or "No". Theres more to that question by the way its asked than a simple yes or no by including the "Average user" wording. The "Average User" doesn't have the knowledge to do it, even in Pro you have to dig down through a few settings (not actually hidden). The "Average user" never goes into most settings, in fact the "Average user" doesn't even know where most of the settings are. The scripts I displayed have been in use on that demo PC for a while now, the last update prior to running it last night was on the 16th February. Since then there have been updates and upgrades, and that PC is in use 3-4 days a week and has never updated. So at the moment they are working as planned. They are almost idiot proof to run. Here's a thought (and being serious) why not put the two bat files as I linked on your wifes W10 somewhere you know where they are and wont lose / delete them. As per the instructions, right click disable Windows updates - Click run as Administrator. Manually go in and test to see if the updates error. Assuming they do - wait and see if any more are forced through. You got nothing to lose. Can MS force updates past blocks ? Sure they can, its would they, and even if they did they are well within their rights. When the OS was first activated (the day you brought it) you would have had to agreed to the terms and conditions other wise it wont install. Look at # 6. The "Average User" doesn't know where they actually are, but I'll tell you. Click in the search, type Winver - open it. Near the bottom of the window is a link to the Terms and conditions. Just because you (like most people) never actually read them doesn't mean anything, you agreed by clicking the button to finish setting it up. Legally that's accepted in Court ( I know because I won a case when some prick wouldn't pay a bill years ago- they used the excuse the just agreed and signed, didn't read - they lost the moment that was said) Other places force out updates as well. If you have Sky TV either directly through Sky or Vodafone they force out firmware upgrades to the decoders. They don't pop up with a message saying its going to happen, they just do it, usually at some early hours of the morning. So back to the question -- Can you block- at the Moment YES. Will it continue to work ? Who knows, unless you can see into the future.	wainuitech (129)
1449943	2018-05-27 23:36:00	Can MS force updates past blocks ? Sure they can, its would they, . they use to do that, sort of , almost. :-) In the past , picking the old school option option of ~Notify only~, MS would still send some updates through regardless. Updates they deemed really important, forcing an unexpected restart . Nowadays , Forcing updates through, well, Disabling the update service no longer works, its often soon auto re-enabled . If thats not forcing the updates regardless ....... One foolproof way is is to turn the softwareupdate folder into a link. They upside of all this, is that Windows10 is now allways fairly up to date with the latest security patches. Thats what Av User needs In the past , it was so common to see PC's that hadnt had any Winupdates for years edit , a possible fix to stop winupdate service re-enabling itself (disable some scheduled tasks) www.askwoody.com	1101 (13337)
1449944	2018-05-27 23:47:00	Disabling the update service no longer works, its often soon auto re-enabled . One extra line in those bat files works wonders, sure the original stop service is there, but it did often restart again. After adding the line never had it restart until its been told to. sc config wuauserv start= disabled	wainuitech (129)
1449945	2018-05-28 00:01:00	Just came across another .bat file I had forgotten about, I found last year, a few more commands are included which I'll use when the other actually fails. :D	wainuitech (129)
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