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| Thread ID: 102774 | 2009-09-01 00:09:00 | A councillor in Wanganui | Sweep (90) | PC World Chat |
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| 805861 | 2009-09-01 00:09:00 | A councillor in Wanganui says Wanganui does not have a gang problem? Followed up by the headline that hundreds of gang members will ride in protest against the new bylaw which bans Gang patches. For the record I have no idea how many gang members live in Wanganui. Are they going to import some? |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 805862 | 2009-09-01 04:48:00 | Metla should be able to give us a good idea. I read somewhere that there haven't been any real gang issues in Wanganui for quite a while - but who knows what the reality is. | Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 805863 | 2009-09-01 05:00:00 | Jhia Te Tua | somebody (208) | ||
| 805864 | 2009-09-01 05:02:00 | No idea about numbers, Very few patched members I'd imagine. We don't have armies of them walking the streets. Do we have a gang problem? Hell yes, NZ has a gang problem, They are thieving murdering scum, Who generally get by because they prey on their own communities. Gang behaviour carries on relentlessly, In Wanganui and everywhere else. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 805865 | 2009-09-01 06:13:00 | Yup. Every city in the world has a gang problem. I applaud Michael Laws for what he's trying to do. Finally someone in leadership with some balls. | pine-o-cleen (2955) | ||
| 805866 | 2009-09-01 06:42:00 | Personally I disagree, Its not the councils business to tell anyone how to dress, Regulating clothes is a disgusting move, especially as it has come about due to the Government refusing to act on the gang population for fear of looking heavy handed against Maori. If they are up to no good (and they are, The very foundation of the 2 biggest is criminal behaviour) then get them for it and lock them up, otherwise keep such a close eye on them they move out to the back blocks. No need for new laws when the old ones would work perfectly fine if used as they were intended. If they aren't up to anything, Then who gives a damn what they wear?, Thats just persecuting people for the hell of it. The most dangerous people I have ever known didn't wear any patch or require the backup of a gang to be madmen. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 805867 | 2009-09-01 07:59:00 | Yup. Every city in the world has a gang problem. I applaud Michael Laws for what he's trying to do. Finally someone in leadership with some balls. Reykjavik? |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 805868 | 2009-09-01 09:14:00 | Got that in English? | pine-o-cleen (2955) | ||
| 805869 | 2009-09-01 11:21:00 | Personally I disagree, Its not the councils business to tell anyone how to dress, Regulating clothes is a disgusting move, especially as it has come about due to the Government refusing to act on the gang population for fear of looking heavy handed against Maori. If they are up to no good (and they are, The very foundation of the 2 biggest is criminal behaviour) then get them for it and lock them up, otherwise keep such a close eye on them they move out to the back blocks. No need for new laws when the old ones would work perfectly fine if used as they were intended. If they aren't up to anything, Then who gives a damn what they wear?, Thats just persecuting people for the hell of it. The most dangerous people I have ever known didn't wear any patch or require the backup of a gang to be madmen. Agreed. We're a free nation, none of this control ****. The problem lies with educating the young and helping those in need, not locking them out further than they already were. Personally from seeing gang members in Wellington and Christchurch, it's far easier to know who to avoid if they have big Mongrol Mob, Black power or swastikas all over themselves. Atleast skin heads just shave their heads but really.. this is stupid. |
wellyg33k (11804) | ||
| 805870 | 2009-09-01 11:54:00 | Agreed. We're a free nation, none of this control ****. The problem lies with educating the young and helping those in need, not locking them out further than they already were. Personally from seeing gang members in Wellington and Christchurch, it's far easier to know who to avoid if they have big Mongrol Mob, Black power or swastikas all over themselves. Atleast skin heads just shave their heads but really.. this is stupid. I would change the word control to 'order.' The problem does lie with the young kids, but it starts at the home. You cannot educate a child at school not to do drugs and not to smoke and not to get involved in other activities as such, when the parents allow it. It becomes acceptable behavior. I have to disagree.. this isn't about walking across to the other side of the street because a few Black Power are walking on your side towards you. This is about the impact and criminal activity they are having on society as a whole. This is merely a way to bring order to society without creating a police state. One small set at a time. Unfortunately when children are being shot from drivebys, mobs attacking each other, and gang related illegal activities are taking place, there needs to be order. Thank goodness someone is actually taking a stand, and although I am not a National supporter and never will be, I however give them credit for making this stand. Tourists are no no longer safe, but victims in this country. People are getting hurt and killed, and not just adults... kids. Our future generation shot down by uneducated buffoons whose only strength is in numbers and nothing else. It's about time we took action and cracked down on this. |
Chris09 (15218) | ||
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