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Thread ID: 102903 2009-09-06 05:43:00 The King's English Made Easy! Attn: Jamuz! SurferJoe46 (51) PC World Chat
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807185 2009-09-06 10:09:00 Pomgolian prefect (6291)
807186 2009-09-06 10:41:00 Right on. They used to speak (probably still do) Anglo-Saxon/Old English in Old Hill village in the Black Country just 3 miles from where I lived, phrases like "wo bist du gain?"

That looks like German! I would guess that it means "Where are you going"????
johcar (6283)
807187 2009-09-06 20:49:00 That looks like German! I would guess that it means "Where are you going"????

I think "gain" is how they pronounced "going" as far as I remember. In Oldbury district where I lived, I think they would have said "wo yo gooin ?".

To an outsider, Birmingham and Blackcountry would sound the same, but it varied quite a bit in detail across the area.

When I moved to Oldbury from Birmingham about 10 miles away at most, when 7 years old, the boys at school poked fun at the way I "spaked" :)

Edit: In the heart of the Blackcountry they used "bist" instead of "am", but in Birmingham "am" was plural as well as singular.... "yo am gooin"....but is so long ago now to remember :)
Terry Porritt (14)
807188 2009-09-06 21:34:00 Take a look at modern English came to be and it makes sense.

German, Scandinavian, French, Latin, Greek, its just a mixture.......and spelling changed several times too.
pctek (84)
807189 2009-09-06 21:55:00 Terry, why is it called the Black Country, and what area is it referring to? Richard (739)
807190 2009-09-07 01:30:00 Terry, why is it called the Black Country, and what area is it referring to?

Well it used to have a lot of blast furnaces, shallow coal mines, iron forges, a lot of dirty industries, chimney stacks, fuming slag heaps, canals whose water was more sulphuric acid than water.

In my day Albright and Wilson chemical works in Langley was a disgrace, the sulphurous atmosphere was atrocious, and when it rained, the acid rain would burn holes in leaves out in semi-rural Quinton.

Our school song began something like this:

Mid ceaseless toil and the swirling smoke, where the mighty furnace glows
With night skies ablaze through the mirk and the haze, the Oldbury school arose.

:) :banana

There may be some dispute as to which particular district could be said to be in the Black Country, but it was the area to the north-west of Birmingham, including Oldbury, Blackheath, Old Hill, Cradley Heath, Dudley, Tipton, Darlaston, Bilston, Wednesbury, Walsall, and maybe a few more.
Terry Porritt (14)
807191 2009-09-07 03:04:00 Thanks Terry. You don't have a recording of the old school song you could post? Maybe you could sing it.! :o Richard (739)
807192 2009-09-07 06:16:00 Thanks Terry. You don't have a recording of the old school song you could post? Maybe you could sing it.! :o

Alas, no recording exists, at least in the public domain afaik, and the school is no more. On the site is a sports college.

It fell victim to the drive to abolish Grammar Schools, as so eloquently expressed by public school educated Labour Education Minister, the Rt. Hon. Anthony Crosland.....quote:
""If it's the last thing I do, I'm going to destroy every f*****g grammar school in England. And Wales and Northern Ireland"

en.wikipedia.org

I'm no singer either :)
Terry Porritt (14)
807193 2009-09-07 06:53:00 Alas, no recording exists, at least in the public domain afaik, and the school is no more. On the site is a sports college.

It fell victim to the drive to abolish Grammar Schools, as so eloquently expressed by public school educated Labour Education Minister, the Rt. Hon. Anthony Crosland.....quote:
""If it's the last thing I do, I'm going to destroy every f*****g grammar school in England. And Wales and Northern Ireland"

en.wikipedia.org

I'm no singer either :)

Probably why you are a leftie today,you identifying with Crosland I would say.
Cicero (40)
807194 2009-09-07 21:00:00 Probably why you are a leftie today,you identifying with Crosland I would say.

No, quite the opposite Cic, he was the type of socialist whom I did not think much of, not only because he was obnoxious, but because he was one of those born with a silver spoon in his mouth and every material advantage, trying to tell us lesser beings what to do :).

I would much prefer the honesty of the cloth cap types with a bit of grime in their finger nails, yet still retaining the deference to their betters by touching the forelock :clap

It was strange, much of the cloth cap brigade aspired for their sons and daughters to go to Grammar School, to get a better education than they themselves had had.

Yet we had this twit Crosland from a privileged background embarking on a crusade to get rid of these fine schools.
Terry Porritt (14)
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