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Thread ID: 103117 2009-09-13 00:23:00 From USA Republican. Cicero (40) PC World Chat
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809580 2009-09-13 00:23:00 I guess I must be on the wrong page…


A vehicle at 15 mpg and 12,000 miles per year uses 800 gallons a year of gasoline .


A vehicle at 25 mpg and 12,000 miles per year uses 480 gallons a year .



So, the average clunker transaction will reduce US gasoline consumption by 320 gallons per year .


They claim 700,000 vehicles – so that's 224 million gallons / year .


That equates to a bit over 5 million barrels of oil .


5 million barrels of oil is about ¼ of one day's US consumption .


And, 5 million barrels of oil costs about $350 million dollars at $75/bbl .


So, we all contributed to spending $3 billion to save $350 million .


How good a deal was that ???



"They'll probably do a better job with health care though!!"
Cicero (40)
809581 2009-09-13 00:34:00 Don't forget they probably said cars or something. Don't forget the biggest users of oil: Trucks - 2km per liter
Heavey Machinery - I don't even want to guess. Anywhere from 75 to 400+ a day. This is far worse than cars.
I think diesel is taxed in America? Here it ain't, provided they are kept off private roads.
Kerosene jet fuel?

I don't think it's as simple as cars.
Cato (6936)
809582 2009-09-13 01:33:00 I guess I must be on the wrong page…


A vehicle at 15 mpg and 12,000 miles per year uses 800 gallons a year of gasoline .


A vehicle at 25 mpg and 12,000 miles per year uses 480 gallons a year .



So, the average clunker transaction will reduce US gasoline consumption by 320 gallons per year .


They claim 700,000 vehicles – so that's 224 million gallons / year .


That equates to a bit over 5 million barrels of oil .


5 million barrels of oil is about ¼ of one day's US consumption .


And, 5 million barrels of oil costs about $350 million dollars at $75/bbl .


So, we all contributed to spending $3 billion to save $350 million .


How good a deal was that ???



"They'll probably do a better job with health care though!!"

Too true some plonker with a business degree from harvard probably got his maths wrong like that mega plonker finance minister in last laber government sorry cant remember his name . He kept under estimating the tax take and never gave it back .
prefect (6291)
809583 2009-09-13 03:01:00 The states themselves have non-agricultural taxes on diesel fuel and they put a red dye in it to mark it so.

Regular "Over The Road" diesel is indeed taxed heavily! Right now diesel costs more than gasoline.

Want me to tell you why a bag of candy costs $30.00/lb?
SurferJoe46 (51)
809584 2009-09-13 03:28:00 Go for it SJ :p

With shopping discounts I can get diesel for under $0.86. But I gotta pay tax per KM driven. Still a lot cheaper than petrol. About 40$ per 1000km cheaper than petrol.
Cato (6936)
809585 2009-09-13 09:43:00 Take in road tax and diesel engine repairs you would be suprised how petrol engines are almost the same price to run. prefect (6291)
809586 2009-09-13 12:02:00 Petrol is much kinder to the neighbours too. I have never really learned to enthuse over the rattly knocking of a diesel warming up interminably on a frosty morning. Still, they sound better than they smell. R2x1 (4628)
809587 2009-09-13 12:12:00 I dunno, the issue clearly isn't saving money, oh no we're going to make less back than we spent. They're a government, they'll get money from other sources, somethings don't have to be profitable. They're clearly trying to save the envrionment/be a cleaner bunch of folk. Even though the lowest MPG allowed is ****ing light years behind europe..

Come on china, join the bandwagon, make your people healthier, your air clean!
wellyg33k (11804)
809588 2009-09-13 12:29:00 With Lucas lights on the scene, a European light year is just a little over a fathom. ;) R2x1 (4628)
809589 2009-09-13 14:29:00 It's too early in the AM here Sunday morning to compute the price differences to NZD, but our gasoline is $3.099/USG and the diesel OTR (Over The Road) is $3149/USG.

We advertise our fuels with that 9/10ths on the end so everyone thinks it doesn't cost the next penny. It's psychological warfare.

They look like this on the signs: $3.09 9/10, which is really $3.10 if you think about it.
SurferJoe46 (51)
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