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Thread ID: 103203 2009-09-15 09:28:00 target on open wifi robsonde (120) PC World Chat
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810510 2009-09-16 01:50:00 Stick your wireless networks, cable forever!! Gobe1 (6290)
810511 2009-09-16 02:13:00 I recently had to "connect" SWMBO wirelessly to our network (her new lappie), and saw there were three unsecured networks alive around my house, all with very good signal strength. The only positive is that our cluster of houses sit way back in a driveway, some 100m from the main road, but still.

sarel
sarel (2490)
810512 2009-09-16 02:41:00 Remember:
Just because you cannot get to the wireless doesn't mean others can't get to it, with directional antennas and the likes. Even if you unplug the antenna, it's still not "safe".

* MAC's can be sniffed & spoofed
* You can still "see" wireless networks with hidden SSID
* WEP is easiest to break and will only stop total amateurs. Where possible, avoid it like the plague.
* WPA / WPA2 is slightly more difficult, but still possible to break
* RADIUS isn't perfect either
* Firewalls at home / office are quite literally pointless and only get in the way - Let your router do NAT, your PC's firewall will almost never be used except to stop apps from phoning home. Connecting to somebody elses WLAN or a public hotspot may be a different story however
* Generic SSID's aren't specifically better than your address. Lets be honest most wardrivers don't know which house "JaneJohnSmithWiFi" comes from until they start testing the strength from multiple locations. That said, even if you had no SSID at all, they'd still know the wireless signal is coming from your house, not your neighbours ;)


My 2c worth :)
Chilling_Silence (9)
810513 2009-09-16 02:43:00 I have taken the aerial off the dlink dsl g604 as I have the computers hooked up by a cable. Laptop died a horror death.
And I am about 300 metres from road
Am I safe as a teenager with glad wrap?

Why don't you just turn the wireless off? Most routers have this capability, and then it doesn't matter how secure it isn't - if it's off, you can't use it, end of story.
Erayd (23)
810514 2009-09-16 02:51:00 * You can still "see" wireless networks with hidden SSID


So true. While XP may not show them, Vista will.

I actually turned the SSID back on because XP wouldn't see it.
pcuser42 (130)
810515 2009-09-16 03:00:00 Remember:
Just because you cannot get to the wireless doesn't mean others can't get to it, with directional antennas and the likes. Even if you unplug the antenna, it's still not "safe".


Funny enough I had my antenna unplugged, and now i cant find it, I have had to mount my router above my seat so I'm sitting directly under it for my wireless to work.

Still not getting a great signal, In fact I have picked up 2 other networks and I'm receiving them stronger.
Metla (12)
810516 2009-09-16 03:16:00 I have taken the aerial off the dlink dsl g604 as I have the computers hooked up by a cable. Laptop died a horror death.
And I am about 300 metres from road
Am I safe as a teenager with glad wrap?

I would go into the router config page and disable the wireless completely if you want to be sure


So true. While XP may not show them, Vista will.

So will Aircrack, Netstumbler, Kismet and countless others...
Agent_24 (57)
810517 2009-09-16 03:17:00 I would go into the router config page and disable the wireless completely if you want to be sure

Or unplug it from the power and use a hub :D
pcuser42 (130)
810518 2009-09-16 03:26:00 Or unplug it from the power and use a hub :DA hub or switch is not a router, so this probably isn't an option unless they also have an additional router to use for NAT. Erayd (23)
810519 2009-09-16 03:28:00 revision3.com

Heres a scary thought , employees setting up there own wifi access point inside a corporate network

"DIY WiFi + The Corporate Network = Bad Idea

Jason's looking to drop a spare PCI WiFi card into his office PC... it'll work as a Wireless Access Point and extend the WiFI coverage in his office. You could use Internet Connection Sharing to do this, it's built into Windows... and you'll probably be setting yourself up to get fired...."
sroby (11519)
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