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1105888 2010-06-01 21:50:00 Hi, I had a HDD that crashed. My 2nd in a year - same brand lol.

So I thought about doing regular evening backup tasks. I also thought about a RAID 0. I know that if you delete a file it will be mirrored. But at least you have a working system if one falls over and also have a 3rd HDD separately for backup of certain folders. Plus a 4th externally for a further tier of protection (as I do now just need to get a enclosure for it).

After a few crashes to me it appears an additional HDD might be $100 for a modest size one. Then you don't get the hassle (of the repair work) and the downtime.

Your views :)
Nomad (952)
1105889 2010-06-01 22:35:00 Correction that would be RAID 1 - not striping. I want a mirroring.

Formerly I had 1 HDD for the system. 2nd HDD for my photography which was sync with a software to the C:. My impt files on C: was sync to the 2nd HDD.

That was great except when the boot drive fails then what ...... :confused: hence maybe I like a RAID 1 now.
Nomad (952)
1105890 2010-06-02 00:11:00 RAID1 is great to protect from hdd failure but that's it.
It won't protect your data if you get a virus or whatever or file/s become corrupt or you delete something you shouldn't as these things will all be mirrored as well.
It also won't save you if your machine gets stolen or burnt in a fire or damaged from a flood.

You need an external backup that you can take offsite to protect against all of that.
With the price of external HDDs these days everyone should have one.

I am busy testing the free version of Genie Timeline (www.genie-soft.com) and so far looks pretty good.
CYaBro (73)
1105891 2010-06-02 00:15:00 I've got 2 useless Seagates. I figured put that into a RAID 1.
Have a 3rd HDD for my photography and sync it to the "RAID 1" and sync any important files from RAID 1 to the 3rd HDD.

Have a external HD as well.

At the mo, I have 3 HDD provided this one gets RMA'ed. I can add another for the 4th.

Question:
If one of the RAID HD bails out. In the future I may not be able to get the same/similar HD. Can RAID work with a different HD or do I need to buy another pair?
Nomad (952)
1105892 2010-06-02 00:30:00 As has been said before on here, RAID 1 etc is NOT a form of backup; it's a continuity measure, and is certainly important where uptime is a consideration.

IMHO your best bet is:

- Separate drives in each PC for your O/S and data (or partitions if this isn't practical/possible)

- A NAS box which runs in RAID 1 that all your devices can share to, backing up images of your O/S & system state, as well as all your data (you can skip the O/S bit if you have a very simple setup which is easy to restore)

- A weekly/fortnightly/monthly backup to an external hard drive which is stored away from the house (keep it at school/work/uni/a mates house etc) in case of theft/fire etc

Really depends on your budget, but with a bit of DIY and some help from the knowledgeable folks here you could do this for not much.
nofam (9009)
1105893 2010-06-02 00:50:00 I think at the moment:

Will add extra HD to the C: to make it RAID 1.
D: at the moment will be sync'ed to RAID 1 in the spare room it has. Sync also any impt files from RAID 1 to the current D:

# Add a external HD using a spare HD I have now. Get a case for it.

Not sure if I would get a NAS box yet. I can still see the weakness of the above thou, if the RAID 1 gets a error of any sort that may get mirrored over. Unless I have a extra box or internally where I do regularly ghost images.....

Can RAID 1 use diff size HDDs? If one fails and I cannot get that size anymore, do I need to buy 2 new ones? It should default to the smaller size right?
Nomad (952)
1105894 2010-06-02 02:10:00 Hey, if you have 1 HDD with software on it ... and you wanna make it a RAID, can you just plug in a new HDD or do you have to redo Windows?

Meaning "hardware RAID via the motherboard" not using Windows Dynamic Disk.
Nomad (952)
1105895 2010-06-02 02:11:00 Can RAID 1 use diff size HDDs? If one fails and I cannot get that size anymore, do I need to buy 2 new ones? It should default to the smaller size right?

My understanding is that you can configure RAID 1 with two different size drives BUT the Raid partition will be the max size of the smallest HDD. eg. 250GB and 500GB under Raid 1 might give you 250GB partition only, so you kinda loose the 250GB partition of the 500GB. So if the 500GB fails and you put in a 1TB drive than the Raid 1 will reconfigure the 1TB drive under Raid 1 BUT only use the 250GB since the original Raid 1 configuration is only 250GB. So you might loose the 750GB of the 1TB drive. LIKE I said, this is only my understanding so I may have to do some research to see if this is the case or I may be wrong.
ronyville (10611)
1105896 2010-06-02 02:52:00 My two internal Seagate 200 Gb drives have been working here fine.

I use various back up methods but the main one is to use Seagate Disk wizard and image one to the other.

Haven't bothered about RAID arrays at all.
Sweep (90)
1105897 2010-06-02 03:13:00 My home PC operating system and programs all run on a mirror for the reasons Nomad pointed out...They are only 80GB drives but thats enough..data is stored on separate drive and I back this up to external.... SolMiester (139)
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