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1105716 2010-06-02 03:41:00 I believe you can flash the Thomsons to the generic firmware if you want to access the advanced options (eg: line mode) Agent_24 (57)
1105717 2010-06-02 05:30:00 Hey Misty.

Seriously I wouldn't bother with the Thomson modem.
We are on the 24-month plan with Telecom and have the same modem, and to my astonishment we have had to replace it twice because they are being sent out with virus' on the actual modem itself. We found that even with a secure network with WPA/WPA2 encoding, we were somehow uploading an average of 4GB/night, and this was happening when we were asleep!

So to cut a long story short; DONT BOTHER.



PS: As an ISP Telecom is ****, should've mentioned that first kek.
GreacherTech (15784)
1105718 2010-06-02 05:49:00 We found that even with a secure network with WPA/WPA2 encoding, we were somehow uploading an average of 4GB/night, and this was happening when we were asleep!

Did you change the SSID and password from the defaults?

It's not a good idea to leave security items on the default settings...
Agent_24 (57)
1105719 2010-06-02 10:25:00 Ah, correct Speedy - because the subject was brought up by Mr_O. Seems I won't need it even for downloading photographs. Still, you never know if a visitor will be keen. Nevertheless it certainly isn't foremost in my thoughts.

In the end I am identifying if the change from D-Link to Thomson is worth adding another 12 months contract to the 12 month am signing already (ie total of 24 months locked in).
Misty

Yeh, thompsons do have a rough interface,BUT exponentialy superior to D-Link modems, i've used three different models in the past, they seem to get slower, may be due to overuse, too large a PCB maybe? too much current used. Not recomended, had my thompson for 9 mths now, used my d-link the other day to check my phone lines and i was going WTF the whole time, unless youre streaming low file size media then youre not going to notice much difference, but since youre on ADSL2, itd be a waste not to get a better modem
Mr_Olympia (7727)
1105720 2010-06-02 10:30:00 Also just to note, i had the same problem as the guy a couple of posts down, that was about alot of uploading, i did notice a lot of upstreaming data the first month, i ended up resseting the modem and putting encryption on. I dont have the problem now, but it is worth the note, also the d-link has problems with handshaking, it seems to upload on a ratio of 7 to one, i.e 1mb down to 7mb up, telecom confirmed this, then sent me the thompson. Hope this helps Mr_Olympia (7727)
1105721 2010-06-02 12:02:00 Yeh, thompsons do have a rough interface,BUT exponentialy superior to D-Link modems, i've used three different models in the past, they seem to get slower, may be due to overuse, too large a PCB maybe? too much current used.

The Thompson TG585 actually has a bigger PCB so by your logic it should be worse.

The actual cause of the problem is the capacitors used in the D-Link routers. It's the usual problem, cheap junk capacitors which can't handle the heat and die much quicker than they should. ESR goes high, which increases heating which leads to more damage, thermal runaway ensues and the continually degrading condition of the capacitors makes the router's performance worse and worse until it no longer works at all.

No idea about the TG585 but the ST536v6 uses the same brand capacitors (Twbor) as my D-Link 502T so I can't imagine they are much better really.

Though the Thomsons may have a better chipset and better designed firmware and overall better performance (when they're working) I doubt their lifetime will be a huge increase over the D-Links..
Agent_24 (57)
1105722 2010-06-02 22:54:00 Also just to note, i had the same problem as the guy a couple of posts down, that was about alot of uploading, i did notice a lot of upstreaming data the first month, i ended up resseting the modem and putting encryption on. I dont have the problem now

Yeah I have tried a lot of options and fixes and it does appear to be a virus, so i'm hoping the new modem will be nice and clean and not cause me and BS

Thanks for the post though xD
GreacherTech (15784)
1105723 2010-06-03 07:13:00 The Thompson TG585 actually has a bigger PCB so by your logic it should be worse.

The actual cause of the problem is the capacitors used in the D-Link routers. It's the usual problem, cheap junk capacitors which can't handle the heat and die much quicker than they should. ESR goes high, which increases heating which leads to more damage, thermal runaway ensues and the continually degrading condition of the capacitors makes the router's performance worse and worse until it no longer works at all.

No idea about the TG585 but the ST536v6 uses the same brand capacitors (Twbor) as my D-Link 502T so I can't imagine they are much better really.

Though the Thomsons may have a better chipset and better designed firmware and overall better performance (when they're working) I doubt their lifetime will be a huge increase over the D-Links..


ahhhh, bit like the pre Ultra durable motherboards that were only lasting 3 years, the large pcb was a guess mind, never looked at it. hows your thompson going? Any speed drops to not yet? Mine has been on continously for the past 3 mths, bar the ocassional reset, have noticed slightly slower download speeds some days 1600k/bits, however may be weather conditions, as its some days its bak up to 5600k/bit downstream.
Mr_Olympia (7727)
1105724 2010-06-03 07:24:00 I have a ST536v6 but I only got it to test out some issues I had. Don't have a TG585.

Currently I'm using a Dynalink RTA1320 (I much prefer the interface over anything else I've used, and love the fact you can add\remove port rules without rebooting)

I haven't had any speed drops with anything, until something screwed up with my line. Was getting disconnections all the time, speed dropping to 192kbps (and that was with 5 different routers)

Telecom couldn't figure it out, they swapped jackpoints, installed a splitter, still didn't work. Eventually it stopped disconnecting (during the contractor strike) and it's perfectly stable now, but my speed dropped by 1Mbit.

Telecom looked into that and concluded that the speed was dropping from 4Mbit to 2Mbit between my house and a cabinet, but because the line tested as 'perfect' they wouldn't do anything.
Agent_24 (57)
1105725 2010-06-03 09:25:00 Many thanks to all who have contributed comment. From comments in this thread I had just decided not to get the Thomson, then read Mr_Olympia thoughts on the subject and was swinging towards getting one, then read Agent 24's view, and swung back again. However am now confused and will have to read through the thread again to try to see how the overall picture fits with my individual needs. :confused:

The main site that I access is a photographic one and I look at quite a few photos or images, one after another. They seem to load - so that I can view -relatively quickly, however it may be that I am not getting the best out of ADSL2. On the other hand I nowadays find that I make a change and then regret all the hassles that go with it. Uploading is not a problem as I only upload one of my photos every few days for critique, and they are small files - so no time really wasted.

Comments about my particular situation are most welcome !
Misty :) :)

PS - the likely lifespan of the modem (ie the existing D-Link versus the potential Thomson) will be a critical factor !
Misty (368)
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