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Thread ID: 103454 2009-09-24 00:13:00 Community detention for mother guilty of manslaughter george12 (7) PC World Chat
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813236 2009-09-26 01:46:00 Imprisonment solves everything because when the scum are in jail they cant re offend.

Which just leaves us to work out who qualifies as scum and then you and your brave counterparts can round them up.
Twelvevolts (5457)
813237 2009-09-26 01:54:00 Criminals are scum. With the exception of people convicted falsely like those helicopter pilots near haast flogging greenstone and that guy who killed a tagger.
The police seem to do a good job catching them because as well as scum crims are stupid and always get caught.
prefect (6291)
813238 2009-09-26 01:58:00 Criminals are scum . With the exception of people convicted falsely like those helicopter pilots near haast flogging greenstone and that guy who killed a tagger .
The police seem to do a good job catching them because as well as scum crims are stupid and always get caught .

Maybe in West Auckland . . .
Twelvevolts (5457)
813239 2009-09-26 01:59:00 I think scum as description of criminals transcends provincial boundaries. prefect (6291)
813240 2009-09-26 02:47:00 Which just leaves us to work out who qualifies as scum and then you and your brave counterparts can round them up.

The scum are the ones making repeat visits to the Judge, and the brave counterparts who can round them up...that would be the police, and they do round them up,send them before the judge, who then puts em back on teh street to continue offending.
Metla (12)
813241 2009-09-26 02:50:00 Well I've never broken a law but I'd say the problem is people who think imprisonment solves everything. I worked in the Justice system for thirteen years, and I've probably seen more of it than most on here. As a prosecutor I lost the odd case on technicalities so I know the frustration as well, and I've spent more time inside prisons than most of you as well, so I know pretty much what most of them are really like.

I've also had to recommend whether people go to jail and whether people get out of jail, so pretty much had to deal with the real issues here and it can be far more difficult when you have all the facts.

It is easy to spout off this hard line BS but you've never had to actually front an offender or a victim after a fatal road crash, I have on many occasions. Surprisingly, victims are often more compassionate than the people on here, even when they have lost someone close to them they often don't want to see the offender in jail.

Judges have to weigh up all the factors, they don't live in the fantasy world many of you do where you're some kind of wild west vigilante mob.


I like this post, Its about time you spelled out exactly what you have only hinted at in the past :punk and done some heavy hitting.
Metla (12)
813242 2009-09-26 02:58:00 It is easy to spout off this hard line BS but you've never had to actually front an offender or a victim after a fatal road crash, I have on many occasions. Surprisingly, victims are often more compassionate than the people on here, even when they have lost someone close to them they often don't want to see the offender in jail.
That is true. However, neither would an awful lot of offenders who would be prevented from committing their crime in the first place if they thought there was a reasonable chance of being on the wrong end of a harsh penalty if / when they are caught.

Sentences are not just about the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff, they're also there to deter others from offending. If they appear too soft, potential criminals are far more likely to offend and risk the consequences.

There's nothing wrong with compassion, but we shouldn't let it compromise our justice system.
Erayd (23)
813243 2009-09-26 03:06:00 Personally I can't see compassion for the offender being a very desirable or worthwhile trait in a prosecutor, Surly the people who have suffered (and those that will suffer in the future) due to that persons actions are the ones worthy of compassion.

I've known plenty of crims over the years, Seen and heard of acts that would chill the blood of any sane person, seen the wave of destruction and suffering inflicted on people by those that don't give a ****. Seen people die in a pool of blood, Cars smashed,houses burned, People lose everything for no other reason then somebody else decided to take it. Gun fights,knife fights,bashings, deals and wheels.

Compassion for them or from them is an unknown.
Metla (12)
813244 2009-09-26 03:35:00 Personally I can't see compassion for the offender being a very desirable or worthwhile trait in a prosecutor. Surely the people who have suffered (and those that will suffer in the future) due to that person's actions are the ones worthy of compassion.I reckon that hits the nail on the head perfectly - the prosecutor should be concentrating solely on the offense and the resulting sentence. As I said above, there's nothing wrong with compassion, but it shouldn't be compromising our justice system (i.e. none of this reduce-the-sentence-because-we-feel-sorry-for-them rubbish). Erayd (23)
813245 2009-09-26 05:09:00 Its a sick justice system when the crown prosecutor has compassion for the crooks. prefect (6291)
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