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Thread ID: 103454	2009-09-24 00:13:00	Community detention for mother guilty of manslaughter	george12 (7)	PC World Chat

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813216	2009-09-24 20:24:00	I think it was your comment in reference to shooting people for a driving offence. Killing someone via a vehicle accident doesnt make it less than killing someone via a rifle or other weapons/ways. Im pretty sure any parent who killed their young while having a piss poor excuse like being high while driving and speeding and not ensuring the safety of your kid as top priority deserves to be wiped of the planet. i know if I did it I wouldnt expect anything less. A driving offence is a ticket or similar, this woman committed murder and got a slap on the wrist. Rob has captured the mood of real New Zealanders here. Quite rightly it has been pointed out that a vehicle should be treated exactly the same as a rifle or similar killing device. If that was her first ever criminal offence I will would be surprised.	prefect (6291)
813217	2009-09-25 07:07:00	I think it was your comment in reference to shooting people for a driving offence. Killing someone via a vehicle accident doesnt make it less than killing someone via a rifle or other weapons/ways. Im pretty sure any parent who killed their young while having a piss poor excuse like being high while driving and speeding and not ensuring the safety of your kid as top priority deserves to be wiped of the planet. i know if I did it I wouldnt expect anything less. A driving offence is a ticket or similar, this woman committed murder and got a slap on the wrist. That will be a lot of life sentences you're handing out there. Be interesting to see you people front up in a real Court and say the crap you say on here to the parties involved. There are no winners in these types of offences, the labels you give people like scum etc perhaps help you forget you're dealing with real people here. Very few people set out to kill people deliberately on the road, unfortunately they don't always comprehend the stupidity of their actions until after the fact. An example being the students in the Wairarapa racing last week, you'd throw them in jail but if you were their parents I bet you'd have a different attitude.	Twelvevolts (5457)
813218	2009-09-25 07:37:00	If my child killed someone I'd be marching him into Jail. And if someone killed my child I'd send em to hell. Would I call a child killer scum to their face? What sort of a stupid question is that? Hell, I'd take the job of shooting them.	Metla (12)
813219	2009-09-25 07:50:00	She is a bad drug addicted person who is a bad parent and a child killer you just dont get any worse than her. There is a saying 6v call a spade a spade,.calling a child killer scum is par for the course in the real world.	prefect (6291)
813220	2009-09-25 08:28:00	The woman gets into a car in a drugged state,with a child and you say she didn't set out to kill said sprog,\. I would say if you get into a vehicle drunk or otherwise affected by other drugs then surely you must be responsible for the consequences. And therefore in this case,it's off with her head.	Cicero (40)
813221	2009-09-25 09:02:00	The woman gets into a car in a drugged state,with a child and you say she didn't set out to kill said sprog,\. I would say if you get into a vehicle drunk or otherwise affected by other drugs then surely you must be responsible for the consequences. And therefore in this case,it's off with her head. I completely agree people shouldn't be getting into cars with drugs or over the alcohol limit, and there is no doubt imprisonment is appropriate sometimes. But there was nothing soft about the sentence that was imposed however, and it will be a more productive than throwing her in jail, which achieves nothing. People should face the consequences but the consequences don't always have to be imprisonment, or shooting, or hanging or the other things you guys pretend you would carry out. Fact is you're not in jail yourself because you don't really do what you say.	Twelvevolts (5457)
813222	2009-09-25 09:08:00	I completely agree people shouldn't be getting into cars with drugs or over the alcohol limit, and there is no doubt imprisonment is appropriate sometimes. But there was nothing soft about the sentence that was imposed however, and it will be a more productive than throwing her in jail, which achieves nothing. People should face the consequences but the consequences don't always have to be imprisonment, or shooting, or hanging or the other things you guys pretend you would carry out. Fact is you're not in jail yourself because you don't really do what you say. 200 hours community service and a couple of years off the road is 'nothing soft'? What world do you live in... 200 hours is about a month of 9-5 fulltime work (5 weeks exactly if you assume 40 hour weeks). If you ask me, that's nothing more than a slap on the wrist for something that should have a far heavier sentence. Where's Judith when you need her...	Erayd (23)
813223	2009-09-25 09:12:00	200 hours community service and a couple of years off the road is 'nothing soft'? What world do you live in... 200 hours is about a month of 9-5 fulltime work (5 weeks exactly if you assume 40 hour weeks). If you ask me, that's nothing more than a slap on the wrist for something that should have a far heavier sentence. Where's Judith when you need her... There was Community Detention as well as the Community Service as I understood it, as well as two years supervision. What sentence were you thinking should be imposed?	Twelvevolts (5457)
813224	2009-09-25 09:16:00	There was Community Detention as well as the Community Service as I understood it, as well as two years supervision. What sentence were you thinking should be imposed?A decade in the slammer and sterilisation would be a good start. Any way you slice it, she was actively responsible for the death of a child - my line of thinking tends towards Metla's in that kind of situation. Edit: The NZ definition of community detention can be found here (www.corrections.govt.nz). That's not exactly harsh - a maximum of 6 months subject to a few very fuzzy curfew conditions, which only apply between 2 and 84 hours per week and can be relaxed on 'humanitarian grounds'	Erayd (23)
813225	2009-09-25 10:25:00	What are the chances she will get a "limited work license" on the grounds that she will not afford to support herself/hardship once she get's out of HD or whatever she has?	Cato (6936)
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