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Thread ID: 103511	2009-09-26 06:46:00	Just in case anyone was wondering...	johcar (6283)	PC World Chat

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814029	2009-09-26 20:28:00	one bit on the news clip last night that concerned me was the footage of the cyclists riding around the bay, what looked like a cycle lane was not being used.	plod (107)
814030	2009-09-26 20:34:00	The cycle lane in that area should be moved two hundred metres or so North, but keeping clear of the shipping lanes of course. Cycles and cyclists are about as well equipped for the harbour bottom as they are for the road.	R2x1 (4628)
814031	2009-09-26 23:27:00	Was the driver Asian? I would not be surprised.	bob_doe_nz (92)
814032	2009-09-27 00:10:00	Were they the orange pickled pedallers? Yes - that's our jersey. Specifically chose that colour because it is different to most jerseys and is very visible. So sorry to hear that Joh - let's hope everyone makes a full recovery. Had a few 'offs' when I used to ride my motorcycle that were caused by car drivers doing U-turns and running Stop signs etc :rolleyes: Same thing happened to me a couple of years ago on my bike. Yeah I was real sorry to hear it. But I wonder how so many were hit when they were riding in single file. Think they were doing 25-30km/h (they were on the main road). Most drivers of vehicles are poor judges of bike speed, even if they do 'see' them. This is from the Herald this morning: They said the car appeared to slow down briefly before speeding towards the cyclists. "She accelerated into the middle of the group, just cleaned the guys up," Hopefully your friend in critical care does OK. Head injuries are awful. At least his helmet would have given him some protection. The guy with head injuries is still in critical care, still 50:50. What I didn't like about the Herald article was that the injuries to the other three were passed off as minor. One has a broken vertebrae in his neck (hardly minor) and a couple of broken ribs, one has a broken scapula and a broken thumb and the other has a broken patella. All of those injuries are going to take months, rather than weeks to recover from! Hardly minor! one bit on the news clip last night that concerned me was the footage of the cyclists riding around the bay, what looked like a cycle lane was not being used. Not our guys, than goodness. We try to be pretty strict on road etiquette on that ride. It gets very busy after 9-ish. Was the driver Asian? I would not be surprised. No - not Asian as far as I am aware...	johcar (6283)
814033	2009-09-27 00:47:00	If she didnt stop at the red light I hope she gets done like a hot dinner. I would expect prison time for this you cant maim people like this a get a slapping with a wet bus ticket. A few months ago one of societies winners run into the back of dragons car as she stopped for an amber light. Her famous statement of no one stops here on a yella light and their is no damage on truck why is your car (Ka) so damaged quite amazed my wife. My wife did as I told her scream whiplash and ring police. Big Nissan 4wd unliscenced driver, not insured, no rego or wof and owing the gdp of Nuie Island (hint) on road tax	prefect (6291)
814034	2009-09-27 01:22:00	It was a Stop sign rather than a light, but same offence really. I suspect she will be looking at (minimum) "Careless Driving Causing Injury" times four, depending on Greg's outcome...	johcar (6283)
814035	2009-09-27 03:58:00	was it a girl(under 18) or a women? different penalties depending on age. Someone said she was going to exams. what exams on a saturday? I don't think high school exams are on the weekend. i think the police will examine her car. maybe something was wrong with her car's brakes. if it had a warrant then i would think no charges would be laid if the brakes did fail. someone said here the cyclists were going 25-30kmh. Are there cycles with speedometers on them thesedays? Or is 25-30kmh just an estimate? i think that recently an allblack was over the alcohol limit and crashed into another car and I think he only got disqualified from driving for 6 months and had to pay court costs. so i don't think the girl/women will be going to jail. i wonder if the cyclists actually were riding as far to the left as possible, because if a car drives at 25kmh in a 50kmh area, the police can actually ticket the driver for driving too slow, so if the cyclists were riding in the middle of the road at 25kmh then that would be impeeding the flow of traffic.	lance4k (4644)
814036	2009-09-27 04:30:00	was it a girl(under 18) or a women? different penalties depending on age. Someone said she was going to exams. what exams on a saturday? I don't think high school exams are on the weekend. i think the police will examine her car. maybe something was wrong with her car's brakes. if it had a warrant then i would think no charges would be laid if the brakes did fail. someone said here the cyclists were going 25-30kmh. Are there cycles with speedometers on them thesedays? Or is 25-30kmh just an estimate? i think that recently an allblack was over the alcohol limit and crashed into another car and I think he only got disqualified from driving for 6 months and had to pay court costs. so i don't think the girl/women will be going to jail. i wonder if the cyclists actually were riding as far to the left as possible, because if a car drives at 25kmh in a 50kmh area, the police can actually ticket the driver for driving too slow, so if the cyclists were riding in the middle of the road at 25kmh then that would be impeeding the flow of traffic.From the information I have from some mates who were actually there (and missed being involved by a matter of meters), she was in her early twenties. University exams can and do occur on a Saturday. If there was something wrong with the brakes and the car had a warrant, that does not make any difference (and that is pure supposition anyway...). The warrant only means that a vehicle has passed a standard at a given point in time. It does not mean that you don't have to maintain the vehicle between WOFs. You must be out of touch lance4K. Almost all serious roadies have a computer/speedo (mine is a GPS with a heart rate monitor) and this is the approximate speed I was told they were travelling. Where the cyclists were in relation to the kerb is irrelevant here. She rolled through a stop sign. Again you are speculating. From my previous experience of that section of the ride, and knowing these guys, they would not have been "in the middle of the road". And what has "impeding the flow of traffic" (which usually relates to traffic approaching from behind) got to do with this situation? She rolled through the compulsory stop from the cyclist's left.	johcar (6283)
814037	2009-09-27 05:32:00	was it a girl(under 18) or a women? different penalties depending on age. Someone said she was going to exams. what exams on a saturday? I don't think high school exams are on the weekend. i think the police will examine her car. maybe something was wrong with her car's brakes. if it had a warrant then i would think no charges would be laid if the brakes did fail. someone said here the cyclists were going 25-30kmh. Are there cycles with speedometers on them thesedays? Or is 25-30kmh just an estimate? i think that recently an allblack was over the alcohol limit and crashed into another car and I think he only got disqualified from driving for 6 months and had to pay court costs. so i don't think the girl/women will be going to jail. i wonder if the cyclists actually were riding as far to the left as possible, because if a car drives at 25kmh in a 50kmh area, the police can actually ticket the driver for driving too slow, so if the cyclists were riding in the middle of the road at 25kmh then that would be impeeding the flow of traffic. You are a hard man lance trying to blame 4 cyclists from crashing into a car. If she didnt stop at the stop sign only a pretty poor excuse for a human being would blame vulnerable cyclists for the accident. Only hope she goes to jail. Brake failure nowdays (since 1972) almost impossibly rare because there are 2 systems (tandem) one for front and back. Although if Hillman Hunter/Avenger it could lose all the fluid thru the booster. This isnt Hollywood where the goody driver keeps pumping the pedal	prefect (6291)
814038	2009-09-27 08:44:00	Hope they are ok. Ive hit a cyclist who was probaly doing 80 odd k, its a sickening feelin seeing them bounce off your car and hit the road	hueybot3000 (3646)
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