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Thread ID: 103594	2009-09-29 06:31:00	Computer tech on Target	whellington (15030)	PC World Chat

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815140	2009-09-29 23:59:00	the geeksonwheels guy didnt wear an anti static strap when changing the ram. got told off by the target lady I don't know anyone these days who bothers with static straps. You guys watch target?? You must be desperate..	paulw (1826)
815141	2009-09-30 00:12:00	I use an antistatic strap when I'm building a PC, and sometimes for other things as well, but not always.	pcuser42 (130)
815142	2009-09-30 00:38:00	OK people. Target morons, are you reading carefully?: An antistatic wrist strap', ESD wrist strap, or ground bracelet is an antistatic device used to prevent electrostatic discharge (ESD) by safely grounding a person working on electronic equipment. It consists of a stretchy band of fabric with fine conductive fibers woven into it. The fibers are usually made of carbon or carbon-filled rubber, and the strap is bound with a stainless steel clasp or plate. They are usually used in conjunction with an antistatic mat on the workbench, or a special static-dissipating plastic laminate on the workbench surface. An antistatic wrist strap with crocodile clip. The wrist strap is connected to ground through a coiled retractable cable and 1 megaohm resistor, which allows high-voltage charges to leak through but prevents a shock hazard when working with low-voltage parts. Where higher voltages are present, extra resistance (0.75 megaohm per 250V) is added in the path to ground to protect the wearer from excessive currents; this typically takes the form of a 4 megohm resistor in the coiled cable (or, more usually, a 2 megohm resistor at each end). Very cheap wrist straps do not have conductive fabric and instead use the fabric to hold the metal plate against the skin, which can result in reduced ESD protection over time as the metal corrodes. Wrist straps in industry usually connect to Earth Bonding Points (part of the grounding system) via either a 4 mm plug or 10 mm press stud, whereas personally owned straps are likely to be connected to ground via a crocodile clip. In addition to wrist straps, ankle and heel straps are used in industry to bleed away accumulated charge from a body. These devices are usually not tethered to earth ground, but instead incorporate high resistance in their construction, and work by dissipating electrical charge to special floor tiles. Such straps are used when workers need to be mobile in a work area and a grounding cable would get in the way, such as in an operating theatre. Wireless or Dissipative wrist straps are available, but they are widely considered as pseudoscientific hoax products. The claims of the operating principles vary from "Ion Neutralization, Skin Effect, Point Discharge and Corona Discharge Effect" to "Selglard electric halo principles".[1][2]	pctek (84)
815143	2009-09-30 00:47:00	Target morons lol They have been told	prefect (6291)
815144	2009-09-30 01:09:00	I dunno about you guys, but when I did on-site repairs I didnt keep data recovery software with me. 9 / 10 times the folder had simply been moved or sent to the recycle bin. It's a toughy, there's always more than 1 way to skin a cat, always varying advice ... I know a family friend who told another family in the church to just ignore the SMART errors their PC gave on boot and that it was nothing to worry about. I noticed when I went over there to install a wireless modem. Told them to backup everything IMMEDIATELY (Went out and got them an external 2.5" HDD). A week later the drive died... 1) Yes, Anti-Spyware should have also been installed 2) Updates also 3) Anti-Virus should have run through and been removed 4) What about a Trojan Remover? 5) What about HJT or the likes? ;) It's good to know mobile techs also carry spare RAM chips, I never bothered, never sure if its DDR, SD-Ram, DDR2, RD-Ram, do they want 1G, 512MB, 2GB, whatever ...	Chilling_Silence (9)
815145	2009-09-30 01:39:00	I dunno about you guys, but when I did on-site repairs I didnt keep data recovery software with me. 9 / 10 times the folder had simply been moved or sent to the recycle bin. It's a toughy, there's always more than 1 way to skin a cat, always varying advice ... I know a family friend who told another family in the church to just ignore the SMART errors their PC gave on boot and that it was nothing to worry about. I noticed when I went over there to install a wireless modem. Told them to backup everything IMMEDIATELY (Went out and got them an external 2.5" HDD). A week later the drive died... 1) Yes, Anti-Spyware should have also been installed 2) Updates also 3) Anti-Virus should have run through and been removed 4) What about a Trojan Remover? 5) What about HJT or the likes? ;) It's good to know mobile techs also carry spare RAM chips, I never bothered, never sure if its DDR, SD-Ram, DDR2, RD-Ram, do they want 1G, 512MB, 2GB, whatever ... These types of programs like Fair Go and target love to rip into companies. I guess it is partly the 'Tall Poppy syndrome' which is a rampant problems in NZ. Often these programs do have a point, but not always, and it is the mistakes they make which can cost businesses a lot of money. Not everyone is perfect, and the person doing the job may have had a bad day.	robbyp (2751)
815146	2009-09-30 09:46:00	WOW you should check some of the comments left on the page on tv3	nedkelly (9059)
815147	2009-09-30 18:45:00	WOW you should check some of the comments left on the page on tv3 I was first. www.tv3.co.nz	pctek (84)
815148	2009-09-30 19:34:00	I was first. Saw that - good on ya! :)	wratterus (105)
815149	2009-09-30 19:51:00	I dunno about you guys, but when I did on-site repairs I didnt keep data recovery software with me. 9 / 10 times the folder had simply been moved or sent to the recycle bin. It's a toughy, there's always more than 1 way to skin a cat, always varying advice ... I know a family friend who told another family in the church to just ignore the SMART errors their PC gave on boot and that it was nothing to worry about. I noticed when I went over there to install a wireless modem. Told them to backup everything IMMEDIATELY (Went out and got them an external 2.5" HDD). A week later the drive died... 1) Yes, Anti-Spyware should have also been installed 2) Updates also 3) Anti-Virus should have run through and been removed 4) What about a Trojan Remover? 5) What about HJT or the likes? ;) It's good to know mobile techs also carry spare RAM chips, I never bothered, never sure if its DDR, SD-Ram, DDR2, RD-Ram, do they want 1G, 512MB, 2GB, whatever ... The techs were told in advance what the job was when the job was booked (file recovery, computer not starting up - beeps). It was mentioned during the episode. So there is no excuse not to bring data recovery software / sets of RAM.	whellington (15030)
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