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Thread ID: 103605 2009-09-29 19:31:00 Court justice? kenj (9738) PC World Chat
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815297 2009-09-29 23:52:00 Earlier this week people on this forum were recommending shooting people for road offences, shooting politicians for having a view different than theirs, and now one of their brethren takes matters into his own hands, they're calling for stronger penalties for those who take matters into their own hands. That's what the problem is with Sensible Sentencing. it's so inconsistent in its application. It's ok to murder a kid for graffiti, it's ok to take matters into your own hands as a lynch mob, but once one of your guys gets caught handing out your brand of justice, it's suddenly an outrage. Hard to follow your logic really, this offender here was one of you. Maybe they should throw the book at him to deter the rest of you. Twelvevolts (5457)
815298 2009-09-30 00:11:00 Earlier this week people on this forum were recommending shooting people for road offences, shooting politicians for having a view different than theirs, and now one of their brethren takes matters into his own hands, they're calling for stronger penalties for those who take matters into their own hands. That's what the problem is with Sensible Sentencing. it's so inconsistent in its application. It's ok to murder a kid for graffiti, it's ok to take matters into your own hands as a lynch mob, but once one of your guys gets caught handing out your brand of justice, it's suddenly an outrage. Hard to follow your logic really, this offender here was one of you. Maybe they should throw the book at him to deter the rest of you.

err, what?....i think you are talking about metla?, you arent judging all from the comments of him are you?
SolMiester (139)
815299 2009-09-30 00:24:00 Earlier this week people on this forum were recommending shooting people for road offences, shooting politicians for having a view different than theirs, and now one of their brethren takes matters into his own hands, they're calling for stronger penalties for those who take matters into their own hands. That's what the problem is with Sensible Sentencing. it's so inconsistent in its application. It's ok to murder a kid for graffiti, it's ok to take matters into your own hands as a lynch mob, but once one of your guys gets caught handing out your brand of justice, it's suddenly an outrage. Hard to follow your logic really, this offender here was one of you. Maybe they should throw the book at him to deter the rest of you.


pfffft, as pointed out already her crime was killing her child, not a traffic offence, Other then that I never supported the guy getting soft treatment for killing the tagger and no real idea what else your dribble is referring to.

Not a fan of vigilante justice, Not unless everyone is allowed to be armed and to fight back.
Metla (12)
815300 2009-09-30 00:27:00 Earlier this week people on this forum were recommending shooting people for road offences, shooting politicians for having a view different than theirs, and now one of their brethren takes matters into his own hands, they're calling for stronger penalties for those who take matters into their own hands. That's what the problem is with Sensible Sentencing. it's so inconsistent in its application. It's ok to murder a kid for graffiti, it's ok to take matters into your own hands as a lynch mob, but once one of your guys gets caught handing out your brand of justice, it's suddenly an outrage. Hard to follow your logic really, this offender here was one of you. Maybe they should throw the book at him to deter the rest of you.

Er no, you have it wrong. The punishment (Yes punishment) should fit the crime, they had an accident and the thug beat an elderly guy to death, a thug who has a previous conviction of threating to kill someone.
Im pretty sure next year when he gets out he wont have changed at all, but the family of the guy he killed will be changed forever.
rob_on_guitar (4196)
815301 2009-09-30 00:41:00 Who are you and what have you done to prefect?!?!?!?
I don't know what came over me John I am alright now.
Perhaps I was taking the piss.
prefect (6291)
815302 2009-09-30 01:02:00 Er no, you have it wrong. The punishment (Yes punishment) should fit the crime, they had an accident and the thug beat an elderly guy to death, a thug who has a previous conviction of threating to kill someone.
Im pretty sure next year when he gets out he wont have changed at all, but the family of the guy he killed will be changed forever.

So the thug in Auckland who beat the kid to death for graffiti was different how? Sensible Sentencing is on record as supporting the guy who did that.

I already said earlier that the sentence seemed light so what exactly do I have wrong??
Twelvevolts (5457)
815303 2009-09-30 01:12:00 Earlier this week people on this forum were recommending shooting people for road offences, shooting politicians for having a view different than theirs, and now one of their brethren takes matters into his own hands, they're calling for stronger penalties for those who take matters into their own hands . That's what the problem is with Sensible Sentencing . it's so inconsistent in its application . It's ok to murder a kid for graffiti, it's ok to take matters into your own hands as a lynch mob, but once one of your guys gets caught handing out your brand of justice, it's suddenly an outrage . Hard to follow your logic really, this offender here was one of you . Maybe they should throw the book at him to deter the rest of you .

Are you f*&(ing insane?

You are talking about a woman on drugs who killed her own kid, to a guy who was involved in a traffic accident?
How you anyone in their sane mind even have the two in the same category?

Everything you say is an attack on the Sensible Sentencing Trust . And you talk the same crap in every one of your post save the first one in this thread, where you suggested 10 years .

Sorry, I want the right defend myself, my family and my property . That is a basic human right .
These *******s whom you so deeply love and support are people who forfeit their privilege of freedom .

These scum aren't our biggest problem, our biggest problem is people like yourself . You preach this nonsense of being easy on these guys .
So I ask you Mister-Prosecutor-Man, would you feel the same if it was your kid that had died in that car crash (ref other topic); if your wife or daughter gets raped, will be easy on them too? What if they kill your kids, or molest you 6 year old son, will you be easy on them?

When someone breaks into your house steals from you, will you try and stop him or would you offer him tea?

Bad people do bad thing, and it is people such as yourself that facilitate their actions and lead to generation after generation of this .

So I ask, who is worse the criminal or the one who facilitates him?
Cato (6936)
815304 2009-09-30 01:16:00 I already said earlier that the sentence seemed light so what exactly do I have wrong??

Yes, and we agreed. But why bring everything back into this thread?
Cato (6936)
815305 2009-09-30 03:20:00 Are you f*&(ing insane?

You are talking about a woman on drugs who killed her own kid, to a guy who was involved in a traffic accident?
How you anyone in their sane mind even have the two in the same category?

Everything you say is an attack on the Sensible Sentencing Trust . And you talk the same crap in every one of your post save the first one in this thread, where you suggested 10 years .

Sorry, I want the right defend myself, my family and my property . That is a basic human right .
These *******s whom you so deeply love and support are people who forfeit their privilege of freedom .

These scum aren't our biggest problem, our biggest problem is people like yourself . You preach this nonsense of being easy on these guys .
So I ask you Mister-Prosecutor-Man, would you feel the same if it was your kid that had died in that car crash (ref other topic); if your wife or daughter gets raped, will be easy on them too? What if they kill your kids, or molest you 6 year old son, will you be easy on them?

When someone breaks into your house steals from you, will you try and stop him or would you offer him tea?

Bad people do bad thing, and it is people such as yourself that facilitate their actions and lead to generation after generation of this .

So I ask, who is worse the criminal or the one who facilitates him?

You should learn to read then you wouldn't spend so much time knocking down arguments I never made in the first place . Someone did break into my house, you should read what I wrote not what you think I wrote . It is not a crime to express a different view than you . and do you dispute the Sensible Sentencing trust learnt its support to a murderer? Well sorry they did, I can't change the hypocrisy of that organisation just to make you feel better .
Twelvevolts (5457)
815306 2009-09-30 03:45:00 God bless NZ, its barely a crime to kill your children, Or steal someone else's.

www.stuff.co.nz


lawyer Adam Couchman said the sentencing judge, Justice Judith Potter, did not consider mitigating factors such as his remorse, his early guilty plea and the absence of previous convictions when considering his minimum non-parole period

Why should they be of any relevance?, he stole someone's child ***.Burn him at the stake.
Metla (12)
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