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Thread ID: 103792	2009-10-06 19:37:00	Copyright on Movies and Music	Twelvevolts (5457)	PC World Chat

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817553	2009-10-06 19:37:00	Well I see some American Motion Picture guy has been in New Zealand promoting laws to take away peoples internet connection for downloading movies . I wish these guys put as much thought into how to get people to buy their products (and making money by doing so) as they did in preventing people trying to see their content . Now I don't think I have downloaded a movie ever because the experience isn't generally that good, although I do watch the odd TV programme by that method . Last Tuesday night I took myself off to the movies at the Sky City Luxury Lounge to see District 9, the ticket cost me a $10 and the movie was well worth the entry fee . Now if I had wanted to see it online, $10 would have been my starting point although free would be better . Movie industry could make money out of advertising on a web site, selling deluxe packages with extras etc etc . Yesterday I sent off for the deluxe version of the album Ignore the Ignorant (The Cribs) Roses edition direct from Townsend Records (http://www . townsend-records . co . uk) . I love the album and downloaded it the day it was available on the internet, but the Rose version has a twenty track live album and making of DVD, to me it is well worth the ten pounds plus postage that it will cost me to get it sent out . I tried to buy the album in JB Hi-fi the day it was released in the UK, but was told the New Zealand release wasn't going to be until October at the earliest, so there was no legal way at that point to buy it in New Zealand . Well done New Zealand record industry, I now have to import more albums than I can buy here, and then you wonder why the CD stores are going out of business (yes some of us dinosaurs still prefer the CD when we can get them) . The movie industry should give up chasing their customers and trying to cut off their internet access . I've bought more music since BitTorrent arrived on the scene than I did in the preceding twenty years . Forget cutting off my internet access, make it easy to download quality movies for nothing or at least no more than ten bucks, and start thinking about new ways of making money off it . At least the music industry is starting to show some innovation, time for the movie industry to follow suit . And to the New Zealand Government - don't buy into this as my internet connection has nothing to do with you and your ways of detecting what is being downloaded can't keep up with the ways of hiding it .	Twelvevolts (5457)
817554	2009-10-16 13:54:00	Well, this is actually pretty bad not to be able to get whatever music or movies when you want them.As for the legal movie downloads, there's an article here (audials.com) on this, it might help u.	harrytabs (15298)
817555	2009-10-17 03:15:00	I found this (www.cracked.com) article on cracked quite good. As for downloading movies - I don't. Except last night. Turns out of you register on bside.com you get a free low-resolution download. DRM-free too!	ubergeek85 (131)
817556	2009-10-19 01:34:00	This is on the button. torrentfreak.com	Twelvevolts (5457)
817557	2009-10-19 02:23:00	Streaming content that costs 30 million to develop (ie District 9), you would never come close to recovering that online. Bandwidth isn't cheap, at a decent quality it would take 1.5+gb per movie. Sure you can drop the quality, but would you want to watch crap? (Hence the R5 releases to prevent piracy.) 1.5gb streamed to 10 million viewers, would still be at a loss. A pretty big loss compared to the budget. Although it would kill piracy, there is no way a single movie could generate revenue of what you get at the cinemas like say Titanic (nearly two billion!!!) or even 300 (~500 million). You can't match that, simple as that. You can't justify any decent budget if you won't have wholesale release to cinemas and it's no longer the exception that someone would rather stay home and watch the latest release than go to the movies. So if it did turn this way, what you would basically get is cheap crappy movies. Would you prefer that? And it is District 9 that is an exception at 30m, Star Trek was 150m, Die Hard 4 was 110m, Hitman was 70m, sure you can go the way of Snatch & Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels which were done at less than 5m combined and El Mariachi less than 10 grand. People don't really enjoy it that much do they?	Cato (6936)
817558	2009-10-19 02:25:00	These people are making billions, do you think they won't try to crush anyone who opposes them? Ah, and you will be shocked to see how many people have watched a ripped D9 already. Just imagine what profit they would have made if everyone did go to see it at the movies.	Cato (6936)
817559	2009-10-19 02:40:00	The problem with music, like you said is that a lot simply isn't available in this country. I couldn't find a Halford album if my life depended on it, as in Rob Halford of Judas Priest fame's solo work, and he is someone who has sold the better part of 35m albums. Do you think you could find anything that's not so mainstream? I could easily get that stuff in any music store in Europe or North America. But here, I couldn't get anyone would order it in for me. And if by some twist of fate someone did agree to import it, it would take up to two months. It's quicker to get it in Europe and mail it, but that would take over week. Or you could have it in 2 mins. Now you can get it from itunes or whatever. But that's annoying too, since you can't play that in your car or on my nice stereo system. So why wouldn't you want to steal? I bought the last Maiden (own 12 of their albums) & Priest album at the store. If they weren't available in NZ, I would have downloaded. No question about it.	Cato (6936)
817560	2009-10-19 06:07:00	Tried JB Hifi? Or Real Greedy?	the_bogan (9949)
817561	2009-10-19 06:17:00	The problem with music, like you said is that a lot simply isn't available in this country. I couldn't find a Halford album if my life depended on it, as in Rob Halford of Judas Priest fame's solo work, and he is someone who has sold the better part of 35m albums. Do you think you could find anything that's not so mainstream? I could easily get that stuff in any music store in Europe or North America. But here, I couldn't get anyone would order it in for me. Can't have tried that hard, I have all his solo (2 studio plus the live album) albums as well as his "Two" project, which is truly horrible. and the two albums he made with Fight....which are killer. I'm yet to see his Live in Rio DVD in stores though so will have to get that from overseas.. Personally I consider the quality of MP3's to be crap, They should be 25c a track to reflect teh poor quality.Likewise movies,Worth **** all. Lets hope that this clenching of the music and movie industries forces a rethink of how the product is made, If the story or the music is good then it doesn't need millions spent on it, Especially the music, You can polish turd with million dollar notes, Its still a turd, Everything on C4 is a prime example, so is that rubbish album made by Axl rose.	Metla (12)
817562	2009-10-19 06:38:00	The Metal God is releasing another Halford album, Its a Christmas album. That's one I won't be getting.	Metla (12)
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