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Thread ID: 146566	2018-09-10 21:04:00	Car Key Issue - opinions wanted	piroska (17583)	PC World Chat

Post ID	Timestamp	Content	User
1453514	2018-09-21 06:20:00	Sue the bastards!!! :confused: And wind up selling the car to pay the Lawyer?? Hmmmm?	B.M. (505)
1453515	2018-09-21 06:51:00	As it says in the article, I'm going to MVDT. Which is Disputes for cars.... $50 filing fee. He is meant to get in touch by the 3rd....according to the paperwork we both got. According to the article he isn't going to. Oh well, MVDT it is then. Even if I lose which I don't think will happen, I like the car. Never cared about any of my other Jap cars really, this I like, it's not perfect (as in performance specs) but we like it. So OK, that means I paid $11000 for it...oh well, not way outside the listed prices on most.... Shouldn't have been, but well. I will allow that Mr Dealer probably didn't know about the master business. OK, once I told him is another matter. I also didn't care that he didn't give me 2 keys, I was OK with cost of getting a spare. I do care that the one he gave me is a bit munted, and of course the master/ecu drama. But Toyota have been good to me. I've had it cleaned already as well, got chocolate fish and my Toyota guy called in today to get a number HO wants to confirm procedure. If they still can't, well they bear the cost of the whole ECU procedure again for my second key... The news was more to warn people....another thing to check when buying cars. If I had bought private, well, I'd be stuffed and stuck with the cost wouldn't I.	piroska (17583)
1453516	2018-09-21 13:21:00	Maybe you're targetting the wrong people? Maybe this should be the governments job to somehow add a procedure to imported vehicles that need to ensure vehicles have a master key. As I was saying before car auction places normally have a locksmith do this for them and if it's not a master, they turn the key they do have into the master key by reflashing the ECU and removing all other keys that maybe programmed in there. In fact this should be the way. If landlords don't get their keys back for the property they change the locks, so if you don't get the master key or the other keys programmed in the ECU, it all should be changed as well. You may never know whether a dealer got the car from a repo sale and the owners still have the keys and are on the look out for their car. If Toyota HO has once again changed the procedure in programming spare keys, then maybe you did have the master key but no one knows this new procedure? Considering Toyota must have programmed the ECU, why now can they not create the other spare and may end up reprogramming the ECU again. Maybe all vehicle makers should let the ECU be unlocked by the 'brake' dance, this has been the weirdest method I've seen so far but funny to watch people do it. I'm always amazed by companies need for security though, when really it's just a way to introduce a monopoly in sheeps clothing. The benefits are never for the end user when the company hides secrets.	Kame (312)
1453517	2018-09-21 21:18:00	Maybe you're targetting the wrong people? Maybe this should be the governments job to somehow add a procedure to imported vehicles that need to ensure vehicles have a master key. You may never know whether a dealer got the car from a repo sale and the owners still have the keys and are on the look out for their car. If Toyota HO has once again changed the procedure in programming spare keys, then maybe you did have the master key but no one knows this new procedure? Considering Toyota must have programmed the ECU, why now can they not create the other spare and may end up reprogramming the ECU again. . The car was an import, I was first NZ owner, he imported it. Toyota has not changed anything. It is what it is. That's the problem, it's old enough - in Japan anyway - that documentation is scarce. They may yet find it. If they can't, then yes, they'll do it via the ecu again. I did not have the master. Look at the picture, the fat remote gadget is the valet key. The thing that looks like a normal key is the master - that actually has a chip in it too. The government? Sigh.....why must the govt be blamed for everything, we have enough nanny state now, the govt should be involved in absolutely everything? Ok the dealer probably didn't know...but then I told him. Sorry, but it then becomes his responsibility. I thought I was fair, I didn't ask him for the cost of 2 valet keys... Just one that worked seeing as the one he gave me is munted. And a master.	piroska (17583)
1453518	2018-09-26 04:45:00	Car back at Toyota today....they have a procedure. It may not work, but one way or another I'll get the final key done. I'm slightly famous there, all the staff, oh hi, you again....LOL. Also I asked about my left fog light, book says you have to take fender etc off to get at it, they said they'll let me know, probably easier...but I won't like the price of the bulb. I said I'm getting used to it, bring it in for something minor and get charged a fortune, lol....	piroska (17583)
1453519	2018-10-01 15:13:00	WOW, almost 2K to get the key fixed! 2K? I hope the NZ$ to US$ conversion factor is 500:1! I know that " Chipped Keys " are spendy, but I never knew " Proximity Keys " were that dear . Thankfully, the newest vehicle I have is a 2000 Chevy Astro-Van without all the gimmicky Gen X cr@ppola . What's the radio range on that parity test? Is it just a passive RF chip or dual radios-type thing? Does the vehicle report the number of start-ups to the mother ship? How about speeding? . . " . . . . . . " . . . . . running red lights? How many Watts? Can you get sterilized if you keep the fob in your pocket? How much exposure time does it take before you can read in bed by your own glow? (Minutes? Hours? Days? Weeks?) I'm so glad that vehicle manufacturers Beta Test things where the subjects cannot revolt because they only have sharp sticks and sheep to throw at the politicians . I may have misspoken here . . . . . sharp sticks sind verboten, auch! Oo-o-o-o . . . . I'm in rare form this AM . I think it's a good omen for me to final edit my Autobiographical-slash-Orwellian tome today! :headbob	SurferJoe46 (51)
1453520	2018-10-01 21:19:00	NZ$ is worth about 0.66 US$ at the moment so a little over $1320	dugimodo (138)
1453521	2018-10-01 21:21:00	@dugimodo . . . . . . I think that's exorbitant and highway robbery . . . . . no matter the exchange rate at the mo . Ga-a-ck!	SurferJoe46 (51)
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