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| Thread ID: 146566 | 2018-09-10 21:04:00 | Car Key Issue - opinions wanted | piroska (17583) | PC World Chat |
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| 1453504 | 2018-09-13 07:37:00 | Yeah ever notice how some of the dealers are all nice, your best buddy when you are buying a vehicle, but boy, turn into an unmentionable when things go sour. Some??? LOL. Anyway car back from Toyota. They washed, vacuumed and polished it as well. 1 Master key - $800 1 Remote thing - $273 1 more Remote thing cause original is dodgy - $273 Initial messing about before we found out about master - $63 And the rest labour and coding $2228. Oh er.....the master key looks like a key, but isn't. The keys (gadgets) don't but sort of are. Anyway I'm happy, like my car, it has a shiny new towbar too, probably don't need it but it ill come in handy when husband backs into things. |
piroska (17583) | ||
| 1453505 | 2018-09-13 10:51:00 | FYI www.kiwiblog.co.nz Sounds like Toyota did the same to you, again. |
Kame (312) | ||
| 1453506 | 2018-09-13 21:10:00 | Sounds like Toyota did the same to you, again. Nope. I saw that. They were, in fact, cheaper than the locksmith for the replacement remote key. The cost was the labour, the master and the coding of master. Not making a spare. They did itemise my bill, it was very clear and they insisted on giving me a run down in detail of it all before work started. Perhaps because of that? I don't know, but I was happy with what they did. In any case, I am not a fan of cheapest method - any means based on how cheap...I prefer cheaper of course, but quality counts with me too. Buy a spare off aliexpress and have cuzzy hack the ECU with home made eeprom programmer hardware? Nah... |
piroska (17583) | ||
| 1453507 | 2018-09-17 05:22:00 | Just to let you know, this is turning out an even more involved story. Toyota have been good, however there is another glitch. They didn't have 2 remotes in stock when I got it sorted the first time, so they said no worries, come back when we have it and we'll code it with the master... Except.....they can't. Took a bit of explaining. When you have the master you follow this certain procedure, I'm sure you have an idea how that works... Except mine, being an import didn't use the procedure they thought and they only info they have is in Japanese, so they now have to contact Toyota HO? Dealership? Someone, to find out. And if they still can't code the second key that way? Well they have to pull the ECU again..... I said so how did you do the first one, and he said they did it with the ECU out, so they didn't know this then. Oh joy. However, should they need to pull the ECU again, I don't get charged this time again. They'll wear the cost. But it's rather a drama isn't it? |
piroska (17583) | ||
| 1453508 | 2018-09-18 23:00:00 | I'm looking for a spare remote/fob (can keyless start) and the accompanying blade/mechanical key. The blade key slots in the remote, and can be used in the ignition if the remote's battery is flat. A quote for the blade key is $165 at Manukau Plaza key cutter. The blade grip has a chip in it. I bought two online fir $8, and perhaps buy the remote later for about $35. But need to register it to my car. There is a procedure - works OK for US Nissans - not sure for NZ - I think because of the different frequencies (315Mhz vs 430 -50 or so). But will try to register the new keys/remote. Small loss if it fails... How can you prove/test that you have a true master key? I think there is a registering procedure for your vehicle. Perhaps Toyota used a inhouse/bypass method? rather than a specified method...hence cannot clone easily a copy... |
kahawai chaser (3545) | ||
| 1453509 | 2018-09-19 01:23:00 | There is a procedure - works OK for US Nissans - not sure for NZ - I think because of the different frequencies (315Mhz vs 430 -50 or so). But will try to register the new keys/remote. How can you prove/test that you have a true master key?. Exactly. The master should put the car into program mode. Toyota haven't got the procedure for programming it, they did the first with the ECU out... If they can't find it, they will have to do that again for the second. It's partly cause my car doesn't have any documentation left about it now.... |
piroska (17583) | ||
| 1453510 | 2018-09-21 00:18:00 | I thought you may have rolled over on this www.nzherald.co.nz look forward to a good outcome :) |
Lawrence (2987) | ||
| 1453511 | 2018-09-21 00:28:00 | I only have one "key" for my Mercedes B200 (2006) which I bought 2nd hand a year ago, it is an import from Narita Japan, I went to get an extra "key" and was told the "key" would have to go to Australia to be copied and the cost would be at least $1500. | zqwerty (97) | ||
| 1453512 | 2018-09-21 02:23:00 | That's why it's important to get spare keys on the purchase agreement so you won't bare the costs. Also, most these cars are Japanese imports, so the NZ based company of those manufacturers do not have to have spare parts available for you car, so a lot of the costs can be just getting the part from overseas. In fact it's probably easier to buy the transponder ECU with master key and spares and just do a straight swap as it seems either way, the cost will be no different and you are guaranteed to have a working master key. I'm not sure how many vehicles have a separate transponder ECU but they should be cheaper than replacing the whole ECU unit. It was a common issue which is why they made it a separate unit. I'd probably have to point out that if you spent another grand more, you probably would have been better importing the car into NZ yourself as they are around the $3k mark. |
Kame (312) | ||
| 1453513 | 2018-09-21 02:27:00 | Sue the bastards!!! | Zippity (58) | ||
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