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Thread ID: 146570 2018-09-12 21:12:00 Do you own a motorhome? Roscoe (6288) PC World Chat
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1453571 2018-09-20 00:08:00 Think Prairie dogs may be considered vermin, I remember that their burrows are a real hazard for horses who can break legs when their hooves sink through the ground surface into a burrow and the horse goes head over heals, especially if it is running. zqwerty (97)
1453572 2018-09-20 01:59:00 I lost two cows last summer for broken legs. I didn't notice they were down on the north side of the field.

They stepped into prairie dog shafts when the ground underneath them fell in and snapped their legs high on the shank. Unrecoverable and death-dealing to the cows.

So - cows or prairie dogs - that is the question. What is your answer if I am to fulfill the requirement of being caretaker to the animals?

And don't tell me to become a vegetarian. Eating animals for food is a given.

Any more insults you want to throw around?
SurferJoe46 (51)
1453573 2018-09-20 02:16:00 I'm reminded of caddyshack all of a sudden, think that was gophers though.
It's not that easy for me to wrap my head around living in a country with all that wildlife, the only native mammals we have here are two species of bat and the only things considered pests worthy of shooting are introduced animals (possums, rabbits, etc).
Most of our native animals could be dealt with by a stick if it came to it, probably why some of them went extinct so easily. On the plus side you can go trout fishing without any concerns about bears.

I thought about suggesting BV2 for the spiders, but it's more aimed at cockroaches and it's very effective with those. I just recall that when I treated my house many years ago we barely saw another insect for about 6 months afterwards. But then in a regular house it's easy to overlook a spider or three.
dugimodo (138)
1453574 2018-09-20 02:45:00 I'm reminded of caddyshack all of a sudden, think that was gophers though .

We've got gophers, prairie dogs and voles . All are burrowing and sometimes rabid vermin . That they also carry nematodes, they are dangerous for your dogs or cats to eat . I've got a used dog that's part Australian Shepard and Black Lab .

She had previous owners who forgot to feed her for days at a time .

She improvised by hunting and eating voles and gophers . I've seen her site/stun one and swallow it whole . "Bite-slurp" . . . . . . it's just that fast .

Here's that Caddy Shack quick-vid on YouTube: . be/ocoOqgVwkTE" target="_blank">youtu . be
SurferJoe46 (51)
1453575 2018-09-20 02:55:00 why do you get your rocks off by shooting prairie dogs?

Hmmmmmmmm. I guess that little devil wasn't good enough for you to understand that although I have to take them 'out' - I don't like wasting their lives. But --- life isn't always black and white, not even shades of gray.

There's a dichotomous morality involved here - the least amount includes one side in which I have to protect my - and my neighbor's cows.

The other side of that coin is to just let the cows fall into holes and die a slow, punishing death.

At least I instantly vaporize the vermin so they know nothing happened - a cow screaming in pain while bleeding to death can really give one nightmares.

I might have misspoken here: The vermin never know what hit them.
SurferJoe46 (51)
1453576 2018-09-20 03:24:00 You're right - that little devil gave no hint of your supposed inference. I fail to see the correlation.

The impression was that you were skiting about blasting them away as you seem to enjoy your "manly" gun culture. Bugger the recipient.

In saying that, I do agree with your sentiment about the cows - but as I get older I seem to have developed a 'softer' attitude towards the killing of animals and the apparent enjoyment of doing so. 30-odd years ago I'd have ben out there with you armed to the teeth blasting anything that moved. Life was easier then - more black and white.
allblack (6574)
1453577 2018-09-20 07:07:00 Q. What was it that the vegan said to the farmer?

A. Your dinner is eating my dinner!


Ken :) :)
kenj (9738)
1453578 2018-09-21 08:27:00 The impression was that you were skiting about blasting them away as you seem to enjoy your "manly" gun culture . Bugger the recipient .

Not sure what 'skiting' means - perhaps some local-to-you colloquialism . I dunnow . At this point I'll assume it's not a pejorative .

About the gun-culture thing you don't seem to understand . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

First - I do not own any firearms to shoot people . I don't even keep a baseball bat behind my front door . I do not lay any traps for anyone who might wander into the house - remember that the doors here are unlocked 24/7 as it is in most Montana homes .

Newcomers? - well, meh .

I cannot speak for them but they are likely still living under a bred-in fear that everyone is trying to take advantage of them if not to take their lives and the lives of their families too .

Again - a 'meh' as they will either succumb to the security of the place and that the neighbors all watch for each other all the time . . . . or not .

Pity them as they hold their previous existence in mind all the time and cannot fall into 'the groove' so to speak . . . . of Montana and it's solitude and security . .

It's cozy here . It's really a totally different persona here . It's also 'wide-open' here . Grand vistas broken by clouds and some birds .

The police will many times take up to three hours to respond - if they have an incident on the other end of the county, they have to handle that one first and would have to put my 911 call on the back burner .

Now - remember that I do not have any weapons loaded and at the ready to shoot anyone - but there are situations where other people have to stand their ground until the authorities arrive .

It's that elapsed-time thing that bothers most people .

I am somewhat of the opinion that no-one is trying to 'get' me and I therefore do not keep my weapons loaded for that happenstance .

OTHER people however - have 'protection' for just those moments - which quite frankly are very far and few between in an area where everyone MIGHT be armed and therefor everyone is cordial and kind to each other . Don't sass that little old lady here in Montana . . . . 'cause she might have a . 44 Magnum on her lap .

See? OK - That's perhaps a little over the top, but I hope you understand that the US is still fairly 'primitive' --- although that's not quite the right word --- but there are vast areas that do not see police on a regular basis .

The theory is that an armed citizenry is a polite citizenry . It very well works here as it did in Arizona, New Mexico, Oregon, North Dakota, South Dakota, New Hampshire, Florida, Texas, Arkansas, West Virginia - and a couple dozen more 'Right To Carry" states .

The Socialist States - New York, Connecticut, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Minnesota, and other non-Republican states - oh ---> and California & Hawaii! --- don't want or let their citizens have weapons at all, or have to register them or have to keep them locked and disassembled, ammo in a different room in the house and all sorts of other 'rules' that are contrary to the 2nd Amendment of the Bill Of Rights, US Constitution --- etc, etc . . . . . . (keep these words in mind: coup d'état --- but I'll deny that I ever mentioned it, and I ain't no prophet!) .

In the past two weeks of my driving around this city and having driven 60 miles up north to Missoula twice this past week (120 miles round trip x 2) --- all that time I have not seen ONE police car ------ nor deputies at all .

This city has a local police department, but it keeps regular business hours - in that it opens at 9AM and closes at 4PM, closed on Sat & Sunday and all US Holidays . Any calls 'after hours' go the either the MHP or The Ravalli County Sheriff . See?

Our Montana Highway Patrol officers have patrol zones that can be 300 miles in any direction per man/per car .

That is a standard beat for a Highway Patrol Officer in Montana - and much more vast areas are served by other MHPs in 500-mile circumference . It's really that few and far between for police .

So ---- what're you gonna do when someone is breaking into your house at Three AM ?


Call the cops?


And wait for six hours for them to arrive?



And ask the perpetrator to wait for a bit?

One other thing that I'm sure will wrinkle a nose or two - but it is said here in response to your 'macho-gun-think' thing is that Brits are SUBJECTS to the Crown, whereas peoples in the US are CITIZENS . That's what I hear, anyway . Sorry .

I am truly a-political - and in years-passed and past, I studied US History and US Civics in secondary and college classes - and it's that US Constitution - the basis of all the laws here - that are what's being circumvented by certain political agenda-ists --- that's causing all the grief .

I personally do not believe that disarming a citizenry will eliminate murders and mayhem . I also read that there are knife assaults in the UK every four minutes . Take away the guns and the emphasis will shift to the next usable tool .

Tens of thousands of people die in auto accidents and yet autos are not illegal to own and drive .

I know that sounds kinda simplistic - but I do not believe that any tool is responsible for it's use . It's in the hands of the holder where it is used for good or bad .

My whole, soulful reason to own my Glock is/was for one reason - so I can have a modicum of security when I sneak up on trout and perchance find myself also sneaking up on bears .

It has happened to me too many times sans-pistol .

For a few moments and in great fear --- I had thoughts of breaking off my fishing pole and sticking the sharp end into it's eye .

Yeah! That's when I decided to go Glock! ( . sportsmansguide . com/product/index/glock-20-gen-4-semi-automatic-10mm-461-barrel-151-rounds?a=1810154" target="_blank">www . sportsmansguide . com)

Don't get me wrong here ---> I believe that bear-spray is a wonderful tool if used correctly . It's just that it takes too much time to propagate effectively .

If a bear's intent on eating you ----> 'cause after all, you are prepackaged protein on the hoof ----> you are gonna be eaten unless you have a tool with which to change the bear's mind .




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SurferJoe46 (51)
1453579 2018-09-21 08:41:00 Skiting = boasting gary67 (56)
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