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Thread ID: 103965 2009-10-12 07:08:00 Crime Stoppers Sweep (90) PC World Chat
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819774 2009-10-12 07:08:00 I hope this will make an impact on Crime in New Zealand.

It appears to have had some success in the UK anyway.

http://www.crimestoppers-nz.org/
Sweep (90)
819775 2009-10-12 10:16:00 I doubt it would work.

Simply because suspicion alone does not prove anything. You can't get a search warrant based on what some anonymous person says, without proof that is.

And it opens up gates for every Joe to call in info about someone they don't like and accuse them right, left and center. And this is only use up police manpower.

Half the time it won't be taken seriously, and half the time it will be a wild goose chase.
Cato (6936)
819776 2009-10-12 12:00:00 I doubt it would work.

Simply because suspicion alone does not prove anything. You can't get a search warrant based on what some anonymous person says, without proof that is.

And it opens up gates for every Joe to call in info about someone they don't like and accuse them right, left and center. And this is only use up police manpower.

Half the time it won't be taken seriously, and half the time it will be a wild goose chase.

I agree that the concept can be abused.

But do not we. in NZ, have a *555 number as oppossed to a 111 number for example.

An accusation means nothing.
Sweep (90)
819777 2009-10-12 19:03:00 This is a really stupid idea, natural justice demands that one be able to face an accuser, this reminds me of another place and time which I will not name because everyone else should have no trouble recognizing it as well.

Also people will be dobbing each other in left, right and centre for all manner of minor grievances as revenge.
zqwerty (97)
819778 2009-10-12 19:14:00 This is a really stupid idea, natural justice demands that one be able to face an accuser, this reminds me of another place and time which I will not name because everyone else should have no trouble recognizing it as well.

Also people will be dobbing each other in left, right and centre for all manner of minor grievances as revenge.

Exactly my point.

No one is going to take anything like this seriously.

Will cops, we are already overstretched and in extremely low numbers, take anonymous tips seriously?
They won't.

Traffic offenses with *555 they will take more seriously, because it gets them money. And no other reason.
*555 is often used by people who are jealous of someone with a nicer car for instance. And the all too well known "honda hate". But it doesn't do squat.

Anonymous tips are only going to be used in cases that are already there and info is needed, not for accusations, and I believe this sort of system is already in place.
Cato (6936)
819779 2009-10-12 19:59:00 Its a good idea the police can act on the tip and see if it is a goody or not.
By acting on the tip they are sure to find drugs etc and people up to no good while they are checking a crook out.
Dobbing in crooks is a good thing cant see how anyone can not like the scheme.
prefect (6291)
819780 2009-10-12 20:02:00 Its a good idea the police can act on the tip and see if it is a goody or not.
By acting on the tip they are sure to find drugs etc and people up to no good while they are checking a crook out.
Dobbing in crooks is a good thing cant see how anyone can not like the scheme.

If that's the case, I could call up the cops and say have kiddie porn on your computer and you have a bag of P in your bed. They will come, rip about your house take away your computer for god knows how long, all because I wanted to be an ahole. And not because you did anything wrong.
Cato (6936)
819781 2009-10-12 20:05:00 Its a great idea, if its followed up, So much crime in the community goes on and is ignored that any move to get the community motivated to report it is a good one.

But, some of the reason so much goes unreported is due to the cops wasting peoples time,so they need to support it.


.... and that number should be shortened to three digits.
Metla (12)
819782 2009-10-12 20:08:00 If that's the case, I could call up the cops and say have kiddie porn on your computer and you have a bag of P in your bed. They will come, rip about your house take away your computer for god knows how long, all because I wanted to be an ahole. And not because you did anything wrong.


If your that way inclined then you already pull retarded stunts, If your not then your hardly likely to start due to a new initiative to report criminal activity.
Metla (12)
819783 2009-10-12 20:15:00 It's a double edged sword.

If you are giving up civil liberties in this manner, you will end up in a fascist gestapo state. That's telling you what you will have for breakfast.

Anyone can accuse anyone of anything if there is no protect against it. Just because you will not do it, does not mean someone will not do it to you.
I am all against crime, the death sentence, and whatever comes that way, but this is how you erect tyranny.
And it's sad how you guys support such ideas.

Remember, the great republic died with cheers and jubilations of the masses.
Cato (6936)
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