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Thread ID: 103941	2009-10-11 18:28:00	How to cut ACC bludgers	Digby (677)	PC World Chat

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819224	2009-10-11 22:57:00	As soon as you bring Bill Birch into the discussion as a Guru, you run the risk of lumping yourself in with John Banks and other somewhat peculiar pariahs. Of course, you may wish to go that way, in which case - -	R2x1 (4628)
819225	2009-10-11 23:08:00	What a shame that there's only a couple of you have any idea what you are talking about. The others just seem to have an 'anti' attitude to life in general, and make wild assumptions without any supporting facts. Many threads in this forum seem to follow the same path of negativity, going nowhere, except allowing some to vent their spleen against everything in general. Get a life, and start contributing something positive for once. Go back and read some of your own posts. You will soon see what I mean.	Richard (739)
819226	2009-10-11 23:44:00	John Banks cant be too much pariah because he got voted in as mayor over top of that religious cereal maker nutter. Bill Birch knew how to take to a budget with a razor and trim **** off. ACC just got to big and fat just needs being taken down a size or 50. The no fault thing is absurd a person could be raping another and put their back out and get ACC, ACC has turned into a sicko joke.	prefect (6291)
819227	2009-10-11 23:52:00	Only another Bradford. ;) Even the motor vehicle was useless. :crying Only good Bradford was the van made by Jowett.	prefect (6291)
819228	2009-10-12 00:03:00	It would be interesting to know how much we taxpayers fork out to overseas visitors who injure themselves holidaying here - after paying nothing in to the fund. Quote: "We provide comprehensive, no-fault personal injury cover for all New Zealand residents and visitors to New Zealand. This means you can apply for our help, no matter how you got injured, or whose fault it was. Our help can include a wide range of services – from payment towards treatment, to help around the home while you get better, and assistance with your income if you can’t work because of your injury."	Scouse (83)
819229	2009-10-12 00:05:00	Maybe someone forgot something... The biggest of ACC's customers are people who hurt themselves playing sports. Maybe someone could dig up some statistics so we can have a look and see what percentage are from sport-related injuries. That'll be the biggest shocker in there. It's one thing when a guy falls off the roof by accident (NOT NEGLIGENCE - that is something else entirely) but a totally different thing when I guy goes out to play rugby and hurts his back... Or some a$$hole who decides to drive drunk, ends up a cripple (or cripples someone) and the rest of us pay. Physio has become a joke. 5 sessions for a twisted ankle? I think not.	Cato (6936)
819230	2009-10-12 00:08:00	It would be interesting to know how much we taxpayers fork out to overseas visitors who injure themselves holidaying here - after paying nothing in to the fund. Quote: "We provide comprehensive, no-fault personal injury cover for all New Zealand residents and visitors to New Zealand. This means you can apply for our help, no matter how you got injured, or whose fault it was. Our help can include a wide range of services – from payment towards treatment, to help around the home while you get better, and assistance with your income if you can’t work because of your injury." I was under the impression that's why there was such a thing as travel insurance? Another communist joke. So if someone tourist comes here to snowboard and hurt themselves, why should any of us pay for them?	Cato (6936)
819231	2009-10-12 00:16:00	I say take sport off ACC payouts and put that on its own insurance cover! Christ knows why I have to fork out for every wannabe sportman!	SolMiester (139)
819232	2009-10-12 00:17:00	I believe Germany was the first to introduce a version of what we know as ACC . They dumped it after a few years - quelle surprise! Nothing wrong with privatising ACC at all - provided that this also opens up the opportunity for other providers to compete in the same space . IIRC, the last National government did exactly this, then lost the election and Auntie Helen and her evil cohorts promptly shut that door - wasting millions (again, surprise!) of insurance companies' dollars who had developed systems to provide an ACC-type service . . . So we transfer one bottomless pit, physios and pharmaceuticals, for a freaking great black hole, i . e . lawyers and litigation . Because you can bet your very last levy payment that insurance companies will sue each other, their clients and the other parties and any other entity it it possible to be joined to the proceedings . Now I don't have anything against lawyers per se, but I do now that they are very good at tying things up into intricate and wasteful knots all the while charging eye watering fees . Of course on top of the lawyers we'll also need a plethora of expensive experts to give a a contrary opinion on everything and another plethora to rebut other lot and that's before you get to the medical experts that will pronounce you healthy and not healthy in great detail while your house is put up for mortgagee sale, you car is repossessed and the misses moves out with the kids for a man who has an active credit card . By the end of it . you'll feel it would have been kindness if you had left your insurance ID card in the wash with your undies and the ambulance had left you on the pedestrian crossing to pop your clogs in a relatively dignified fashion, rather than popped you out the other end destitute and still broken . Or we could become a rich country like the US and let our populace throw good money after bad, inefficient litigation because it's affordable and a hell of a lot more entertaining than edumickation . Freedom, eh! As you were .	Murray P (44)
819233	2009-10-12 00:18:00	I say take sport off ACC payouts and put that on its own insurance cover! Christ knows why I have to fork out for every wannabe sportman! Could be worse, we could be paying for each other's car insurances!	Cato (6936)
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