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| Thread ID: 103941 | 2009-10-11 18:28:00 | How to cut ACC bludgers | Digby (677) | PC World Chat |
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| 819214 | 2009-10-11 20:37:00 | You have my vote Digo. Interesting that you would like to see the injured workers culled from ACC (which they paid for) yet your against controls being put in place for work place safety, Even though the big OSH push over the last few years was partly prompted by the massive demand placed on ACC. How many safety harnesses could be purchased for the comparable cost of providing life long treatment for a single arial installer who has fallen and received crippling injuries? |
Metla (12) | ||
| 819215 | 2009-10-11 20:40:00 | I believe Germany was the first to introduce a version of what we know as ACC. They dumped it after a few years - quelle surprise! Nothing wrong with privatising ACC at all - provided that this also opens up the opportunity for other providers to compete in the same space. IIRC, the last National government did exactly this, then lost the election and Auntie Helen and her evil cohorts promptly shut that door - wasting millions (again, surprise!) of insurance companies' dollars who had developed systems to provide an ACC-type service... You have a seconder here Jo. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 819216 | 2009-10-11 20:55:00 | Interesting that you would like to see the injured workers culled from ACC (which they paid for) yet your against controls being put in place for work place safety, Even though the big OSH push over the last few years was partly prompted by the massive demand placed on ACC. How many safety harnesses could be purchased for the comparable cost of providing life long treatment for a single aerial installer who has fallen and received crippling injuries? To remove the idea that I don't approve of the genuine victims of an accident getting compensation,I will make it clear that is not the case. With regards to OSH kit,I do indeed think they quite often over-do things and to have someone decide what I need to wear is indeed an anathema to me.In other words common sense should prevail, not some gov dept,that ruins peoples lives,given half the chance.I am thinking of the bridge thing. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 819217 | 2009-10-11 20:57:00 | How about we divert all the billions out of the grievance industry straight into ACC, Problem sorted and much better value for money. | Metla (12) | ||
| 819218 | 2009-10-11 21:01:00 | To remove the idea that I don't approve of the genuine victims of an accident getting compensation,I will make it clear that is not the case. Indeed, I was twisting it a tad to strengthen my point. Just one of the many wicked methods I use With regards to OSH kit,I do indeed think they quite often over-do things and to have someone decide what I need to wear is indeed an anathema to me.In other words common sense should prevail, not some gov dept,that ruins peoples lives,given half the chance.I am thinking of the bridge thing. I do agree somewhat, But it all ties back into the no-fault system that is at the foundation of ACC. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 819219 | 2009-10-11 21:02:00 | We know what needs to be done,question is,how to acheive it. Inertia is the problem,we are talking large lumps to shift. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 819220 | 2009-10-11 21:05:00 | What needs to happen is the costs need to come down why should ACC people get paid moonbeams, get a car and have offices in swanky areas. And stop paying money to booze buses and anti drink drive stuff its not core business. They could trim millions with a bit of Bill Birch type cost cutting. And the no fault thing should be taken out for people who do stupid things and take them self out, they should get nothing. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 819221 | 2009-10-11 21:20:00 | Nothing wrong with privatising ACC at all - provided that this also opens up the opportunity for other providers to compete in the same space . This sound like Max Bradford's carve up of the electricity industry Private insurance companies will only be competing for low risk accounts and the cost of competition will increase the overheads that we end up paying on those . How many private companies will be lining up to cover vehicle accident victims? Car write off might be $30,000 - young driver almost written off $30,000,000 . The cost of vehicle accidents is an example of why trying to reduce the number of accidents in the first place is very much ACC core business . |
PaulD (232) | ||
| 819222 | 2009-10-11 22:39:00 | This sound like Max Bradford's carve up of the electricity industry. I wonder if any other politician has been cursed as much as he has? Ken |
kenj (9738) | ||
| 819223 | 2009-10-11 22:53:00 | I wonder if any other politician has been cursed as much as he has? Ken Only another Bradford. ;) Even the motor vehicle was useless. :crying |
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