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Thread ID: 110650 2010-06-26 00:51:00 Ubuntu 10.4 Connecting to your server. Xam (11850) Press F1
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1113667 2010-06-29 02:27:00 I thought you had to be dead before beatification! Thank you St Erayd.

Pinged result from 'pressf1.co.nz': 45.60, 43.80, 44.70, 43.50 and 44.00ms.I’ve spent a little time playing with Systems>Administration>Network Tools – there is a tremendous amount of information available there.

I enjoyed 'Erayd.net - Someone is wrong' very much. My jaws are still aching!
Also viewed some interesting poems:
‘These are the roots that hold the world,
Laughably, insufferably secure in their insecurity’
and its twisted negativity reminded me of Tennyson’s:
“His honour rooted in dishonour stood,
And faith unfaithful kept him falsely true’
Many thanks for everything.
Xam (11850)
1113668 2010-06-29 07:17:00 Pinged result from 'pressf1.co.nz': 45.60, 43.80, 44.70, 43.50 and 44.00ms.That's good - it means your DNS is working properly.


However I have been unable to get the internet connection established in Ubuntu...So far, all signs are pointing to your internet connection being just fine. Can you explain in a bit more detail what exactly is wrong?

Are you having trouble browsing websites in Ubuntu?

What (if any) error messages are you getting?

Which browser are you using?


I enjoyed 'Erayd.net - Someone is wrong' very much. My jaws are still aching!
Also viewed some interesting poems:
‘These are the roots that hold the world,
Laughably, insufferably secure in their insecurity’
and its twisted negativity reminded me of Tennyson’s:
“His honour rooted in dishonour stood,
And faith unfaithful kept him falsely true’ I'm glad you enjoyed my poetry - thanks :).
Erayd (23)
1113669 2010-06-30 04:30:00 What’s wrong? With Ubuntu 10.4 - nothing! Everything appears to work perfectly and it loads and closes down much more quickly than Windows XP BUT it cannot connect to the internet server i.e. xtra.co.nz. The browser Firefox is part of the Ubuntu package (and so is the only browser available) and opens quite happily but when you enter an address it comes up with the word ‘Loading’ and the spinning circle thing but, of course cannot find the server so 'Loading' changes to: ‘Problem loading page’ and a box opens declaring that the connection has timed out because the server is taking too long to respond. When Firefox is opened the address ‘start.ubuntu.com’ is automatically in the address box.

So, to me at least, the problem appears to be that Ubuntu 10.4 has failed to connect to my D-link DSL-G640T router while being installed though sound, Deskjet and laser printers and all other peripherals were found. And the question remains: “In operating system Ubuntu 10.4 how do I manually connect to my Xtra server?” Oh, I did ring "Xtra Help" a week or so ago and got someone somewhere in Asia who was very polite and put me on to two other equally polite and pleasant folk - but none of them had any ideas beyond connection through Windows!

What about writing a poem an the frustrations of operating systems??!! And again my thanks for your patience and effort.
Xam (11850)
1113670 2010-06-30 08:43:00 Are you connecting via wireless or via a cable? If wireless, could you test via cable and see if it can load pages. If it works, then we need to work on the wireless settings.
Ubuntu should just go when connected via cable - it should too with wireless but not always. So I feel my question is still valid.
johnd (85)
1113671 2010-06-30 10:59:00 What’s wrong? With Ubuntu 10.4 - nothing! Everything appears to work perfectly and it loads and closes down much more quickly than Windows XP BUT it cannot connect to the internet server i.e. xtra.co.nz. The browser Firefox is part of the Ubuntu package (and so is the only browser available) and opens quite happily but when you enter an address it comes up with the word ‘Loading’ and the spinning circle thing but, of course cannot find the server so 'Loading' changes to: ‘Problem loading page’ and a box opens declaring that the connection has timed out because the server is taking too long to respond. When Firefox is opened the address ‘start.ubuntu.com’ is automatically in the address box.Excellent - that narrows things down a lot. Do you mean that you are only having trouble browsing to xtra.co.nz or that you are unable to browse to any sites?


So, to me at least, the problem appears to be that Ubuntu 10.4 has failed to connect to my D-link DSL-G640T router...That is not the problem; the tests I had you run earlier show quite clearly that you do in fact have a working internet connection.


Ubuntu should just go...As indeed it has - there's definitely a working internet connection there, but for some reason they're unable to use it for browsing. Routing & DNS are both perfect.

Xam: Please do the following:
Start Firefox
Go to Edit>>Preferences>>Advanced>>Network>>Settings
Post a picture of the box that appears, or list the details of every field that it contains.
Click 'OK', then 'Close' to get rid of the boxes
Use the address bar to browse to 'about:config'
If you see any warnings, tell it that you really do want to access this area
In the 'filter' bar, type 'ipv6'
Make sure that 'network.dns.disableIPv6' is set to true (double-clicking it will change it)
Open a shell, and run 'wget -O /dev/null pressf1.co.nz and post the result here.
Do the same for 'wget -O /dev/null http://xtra.co.nz'
Now run 'sudo apt-get update' - what happens? Do you get any errors?
Erayd (23)
1113672 2010-07-01 05:12:00 Note: This special message is coming to you from Ubuntu 10.4!! Please don't ask me how or why because I believe in a Miracle that St Erayd has been able to instigate.

However for those interested I will detail the events leading up to the Miracle:

1.I pedantically followed the first 3 steps of Erayd's instructions as listed above and photographed the box as requested.
2.This was an interesting box so I clicked in varous circles and played about generally seeing what would happen – interesting but not creative.
3.Steps 4, 5 and 6 above were fautless but I did shake a bit before clicking to proceed with step 6.
4.Typed in “Ipv6” as directed by step 7.
5.In the box that came up “network dns.disabledIPv6” didn't appear to indicate truth so, carefully following instructions, I duly double clicked on it.
6.And then the Miracle happened! Firefox opened on the screen swiftly followed by my suggested opening page.
7.OK, so I don't believe in miracles so I entered address after address and each leapt to the screen faultlessly.
The big ? of course remains: how did St Erayd's words connect Ubuntu to my internet? And myanswer is: “I don't know!” But I would like to express my thanks to those who replied to this posting and especially to Erayd whose knowledge and persistence has overcome a problem that I have been fighting with for weeks. His positive, friendly, unselfish help Illustrates the good things that are still a prime part of the existence of Humankind. My thanks too to PC World (NZ) for sponsoring Press F1 - it's just great!:banana
Xam (11850)
1113673 2010-07-01 08:03:00 :thumbs::thumbs: mikebartnz (21)
1113674 2010-07-01 08:58:00 Note: This special message is coming to you from Ubuntu 10.4!!Excellent - glad to hear it's now working :D.


...how did Erayd's words connect Ubuntu to my internet?If ipv6 DNS isn't disabled in Firefox, and you're using an ipv6-capable kernel on Ubuntu, Firefox will preferentially try to connect to ipv6 addresses if records for them are returned, regardless of whether or not there's actually a valid route that allows you to reach those addresses. Disabling ipv6 forces it to use ipv4, which is all most people's ISP & home network support. As a result, it will use the network resources that are actually available, rather than trying to use a feature which simply isn't there, or is implemented in a broken fashion (all of which means you can now access the sites you want, rather than simply receiving a multitude of cryptic error messages, or suffering from terrible delays when loading pages).

There's also a family of related behaviors which depend on the same setting and result in the same or similar problems.

I blame the Ubuntu packagers / testers for this one; they should have made sure it was working before unleashing it on an unsuspecting user base :groan:.
Erayd (23)
1113675 2010-07-01 10:15:00 I blame the Ubuntu packagers / testers for this one; they should have made sure it was working before unleashing it on an unsuspecting user base :groan:.
But that would violate their release policy (ready or not - here it comes ... :))
fred_fish (15241)
1113676 2010-07-01 12:31:00 But that would violate their release policy (ready or not - here it comes ... :))Haha, very true - sounds like a verbatim quote from whoever's in charge of their release schedule :rolleyes:. Erayd (23)
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