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Thread ID: 110782	2010-07-01 11:35:00	New screen FPS problem	CDR Mikhail (15859)	Press F1

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1115063	2010-07-01 11:35:00	Hello, Just bought a new 22" 1920*1080 HD screen, and now I'm finding that Just Cause 2 is only giving 16-23 frames per second and GTA IV 14-24 frames per second. Before you ask, my graphics card is a Gigabyte Nvidia 260 GTX 896MB, and turning all the settings down as low as they go only gains about SIX frames per second. This seems bizarre, that there isn't much difference in performance than very high at 1920*1080 and low at 1280 * 1024. Am I right in surmising that the graphics card is fine/has no issues, and that the lag/rubbish FPS is due to a CPU or RAM bottleneck? What should I do for free first, and then what should I upgrade to get 30-40 FPS at high, 1920*1080 on GTA IV and Just Cause 2? SPECS: Samsung 500GB HDD Intel Pentium Dual Core 2.5 GHz 2GB DDR2 memory Gigabyte 260 GTX 896MB Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Dell 21.5" 16:19, 1929*1089 monitor Price is a limitation!	CDR Mikhail (15859)
1115064	2010-07-01 11:41:00	ram will be one affecting factor. HDD will be another, if it's full or badly fragmented. Drivers might be corrupted, or you might have a setting turned on in the games that's killing your performance. What settings do you have? For me, even with a 5770 I struggle to run l4d2 with 1080p and more than 2 or 4x anti aliasing and anisotropic filtering. Full high def gaming is pretty intense as it is, and adding filters like that to it can kill your fps pretty quick.	8ftmetalhaed (14526)
1115065	2010-07-01 11:52:00	On 1280*1024 I get nearly the same FPS as on 1920*1080, no matter what graphics settings I use, it's still the same, which is why I think the graphics card is fine. My hard drive is only half full, if that. I'm going to try updating drivers and stuff tomorrow, but the fact that I'm getting the same across all resolutions makes me think it's the CPU or RAM. I see the recommended RAM is 2.5GB - mine's 2GB. also, ingame the benchmark says my CPU and RAM run at like 98% load, while my GPU is at 87%. All the detail sliders are at 18, and changing the anti-aliasing has absolutely no effect. FPS doesn't increase with less, or decrease with more.	CDR Mikhail (15859)
1115066	2010-07-01 11:58:00	1920 x 1080 is quite a high resolution for gaming, and you will need powerful hardware. What resolution did you run with the old monitor?	Agent_24 (57)
1115067	2010-07-01 12:01:00	1280 * 1024. Just Cause 2 ran fine - only got GTA IV today. I'm going to a friends on the weekend where I'll be using a 1024*768 screen - be interesting to see how it foes there. But what I'm after is advice on what I need to upgrade to give an extra 20fps or so. Remembering I'm getting almost no change at all different settings and all different resolutions. 1280 is only 6 fps faster than 1920.	CDR Mikhail (15859)
1115068	2010-07-01 12:15:00	Try reinstalling the drivers then. It solved a few of my fps problems, although it gets rather annoying when you have to do it more than a few times.	8ftmetalhaed (14526)
1115069	2010-07-01 21:21:00	Hello, Just bought a new 22" 1920*1080 HD screen, and now I'm finding that Just Cause 2 is only giving 16-23 frames per second and GTA IV 14-24 frames per second. Before you ask, my graphics card is a Gigabyte Nvidia 260 GTX 896MB, and turning all the settings down as low as they go only gains about SIX frames per second. This seems bizarre, that there isn't much difference in performance than very high at 1920*1080 and low at 1280 * 1024. Am I right in surmising that the graphics card is fine/has no issues, and that the lag/rubbish FPS is due to a CPU or RAM bottleneck? What should I do for free first, and then what should I upgrade to get 30-40 FPS at high, 1920*1080 on GTA IV and Just Cause 2? SPECS: Samsung 500GB HDD Intel Pentium Dual Core 2.5 GHz 2GB DDR2 memory Gigabyte 260 GTX 896MB Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Dell 21.5" 16:19, 1929*1089 monitor Price is a limitation! Hi, you do realise that 12x10 to 19x10 is a 58% increase in pixels, so the card has to work more than twice as hard to full the screen! 1st thing I'd do is clock that dual core, i believe GTA likes CPU speed, so go for 3.5-4.0, that should give you a good 15-25% improvement. You could try clocking the GPU as well! The fact you arent see much of an improvement with lower graphic settings suggests CPU bottleneck!	SolMiester (139)
1115070	2010-07-01 21:37:00	Antialiasing is a big fps killer. Turn it off if you don't need it. If you do I wouldn't go any higher than 2 x. :)	Trev (427)
1115071	2010-07-01 22:21:00	GTA IV is a *very* intensive game and it is unlikely you will get high fps at 1920x1080. You will probably need more RAM & a faster CPU to get any extra performance out of it. I've just started playing it myself but at a lowish resolution (720P). My poor 9600GT would struggle a full resolution of 1920x1200 I think :)	autechre (266)
1115072	2010-07-02 01:09:00	Thanks very much, this has to be the most helpful forum I know, which is why I came here. If I was to upgrade my CPU and/or RAM, what would the cheapest option/amount? I'm looking at Core 2 Duo E8400 or Core 2 Quad Q8400. Is this overkill, would you recommend this? Thanks very much for your help guys. I'm also going by performance in Just Cause 2, which is about the same 19-26 fps and no change from fiddling with the graphics sliders/texture detail type options. Empire Total War however seems to be fine at 1920 with high graphics and all the little features such as SSAO on. Oh, and when I turned the Texture Detail down to Medium, it said at the bottom "Hardware usage 366/870", whereas on High it says "780/870" - I think this is the graphics card cause it's got 896MB of VRAM. And there's no performance difference from dropping to Medium textures, which is why I think the graphics card is fine.	CDR Mikhail (15859)
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