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Thread ID: 104603 2009-11-02 05:36:00 The great boot race, Win7 loses KarameaDave (15222) PC World Chat
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826512 2009-11-03 21:46:00 I'm pretty happy with vista ultimate, compared to XP pro. win 7 is just vista fixed and optimised, and it not much more than a major service pack.

No that is incorrect, large parts of the Vista core engine was re-written such as the TCPIP stack which has a very significant impact on network performance, so people like myself with home networks and businesses can actually use it now lol.

Having Vista ultimate dual booting on my system for a few years i can safely say Win 7 is superior to Vista. Vista = Windows ME to me

Each new OS since Win2K has borrowed heavily from the last to be fair, but like Windows ME was to Win 95/98, Vista is the hunk of crap in the group and will thankfully disappear fast as its market share is pathetic and for good reason.
Battleneter2 (9361)
826513 2009-11-04 01:01:00 No that is incorrect, large parts of the Vista core engine was re-written such as the TCPIP stack which has a very significant impact on network performance, so people like myself with home networks and businesses can actually use it now lol.

Having Vista ultimate dual booting on my system for a few years i can safely say Win 7 is superior to Vista. Vista = Windows ME to me

Each new OS since Win2K has borrowed heavily from the last to be fair, but like Windows ME was to Win 95/98, Vista is the hunk of crap in the group and will thankfully disappear fast as its market share is pathetic and for good reason.

Thats not correct according to Leo Laporte . Some aprts may have been rewritten, but it is still largely vista under the hood. Vista is windows NT6, while Win7 is windows NT6.1. It is just a progression from winNT 3.51. WIndows ME 95, 98 are nothing to do with the current verions, apart from the GUI.
If windows 7 had come along, and vista never existed, then people woul have complained about windows 7 almost as much as vista, due to all the hardware incompatibilities between XP, and the new NT 6.x versions.
robbyp (2751)
826514 2009-11-04 03:00:00 Its largely semantics, I do agree the driver and application compatibility is thanks to Windows ME, I mean Vista .

Yes the Win 7 engine is a progression of Vista no debate, but Win 7 has been improved where it really counts such as the very fundamental TCPIP subsystem, whats more important in a OS than that?

A quick google, this just demonstrates some of the feature changes
. intowindows . com/difference-between-vista-windows-7/" target="_blank">www . intowindows . com

There is good reason why most advanced and power users are going to Win7 over Vista and its not blind hate . As a long term Vista user myself (preferring XP) all i can say is cant wait to see Vista vanish .



Win 7 is not Vista patched!!
Battleneter2 (9361)
826515 2009-11-04 03:15:00 I don't know why everyone always goes on about boot times...

If you're the sort of person that can't wait 30s for your OS to load then you should be using Puppy Linux. It's what my OS does once it's loaded that matters most to me. Vista may be ****, but the only problems I've had with it are peripherals that haven't had new drivers written for them. That's hardly MS' fault. Quite like Ubuntu 9.10 though, have it as a second OS that I use occasionally but for the most part Vista does it's thing well enough.
Thebananamonkey (7741)
826516 2009-11-04 17:41:00 Vista may be ****, but the only problems I've had with it are peripherals that haven't had new drivers written for them. That's hardly MS' fault. Quite like Ubuntu 9.10 though, have it as a second OS that I use occasionally but for the most part Vista does it's thing well enough.

Funnily enough, that's not how most people view things, especially when it comes to trying out an alternative OS such as Linux ;) Something doesn't work, blame the OS immediately, seems to be the most common response.
Chilling_Silence (9)
826517 2009-11-04 20:47:00 I just got rid of Win7. And went back to Vista x64. Has some nice features, but it didnt play nice with the tuner. Recordings were out of sync. High CPU usage with the tuner program, The tuner program crashed (which Avermedia just updated), in it yesterday, then it said something about the video card ram causing probs, (or it was running out of video ram or something) because there were too many program windows open. There were like only 2-3 open. I may install it again (maybe when SP1, which by the looks of it), maybe out next year. See if its any better. At least with Vista x64, the tuner program install from the CD works, and all channels are in sync Speedy Gonzales (78)
826518 2009-11-04 21:07:00 Thats a shame Speedy, keep checking the 3rd party Vendor site for new drivers or app patches, there has been some reports of encoding and playback issues in Win7 also, some of it is already resolved but judging by the forums there is still work to do mostly from the 3rd party vendors. Battleneter2 (9361)
826519 2009-11-04 21:15:00 Yeah it was just a bit too unstable. The funny thing was, the recordings (for TV 1 and 2) were out of sync in the program (the other 10 channels were fine), but everything was fine in Windows MC. Why, I have no idea. The program updates (2 of the latest versions for win7 x64), on the Avermedia site are still unstable. One didnt even show the right times for programs in the EPG (all of them were an hour behind). The latest was causing high CPU usage (61%), then crashed the program. 1 was OK. So, the programs were either out of sync, the program crashed, or it (either the program or driver / or both) froze the system completely. I had to reset to reboot Speedy Gonzales (78)
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