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Thread ID: 104716	2009-11-06 02:29:00	Shootings At Fort Hood - Texas, US - Muslim Shooter Is Responsible	SurferJoe46 (51)	PC World Chat

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827599	2009-11-06 06:05:00	Well the US invades two countries Iraq and Afghanistan and a lot of people are pissed off. Best the US gets its ass outa these countries rfn before another nut runs amok.	prefect (6291)
827600	2009-11-06 06:10:00	With apologies to West Side Story - Here comes the warm and fuzzy logic about the Texas shooter and the reason why he went bizarro - - - - - - - Friday, November 6, 2009 SHOOTINGS AT FORT HOOD Rampage kills 12, wounds 31 SUSPECT IS ARMY PSYCHIATRIST WHO WORKED AT WALTER REED He prayed every day at the Muslim Community Center in Silver Spring, a devout Muslim who, despite asking to be discharged from the U.S. Army, was on the eve of his first deployment to war. Yesterday, authorities said Maj. Nidal M. Hasan, a 39-year-old Arlington-born psychiatrist, shot and killed at least 12 people at Fort Hood, Tex. In an interview, his aunt, Noel Hasan of Falls Church, said he had endured name-calling and harassment about his Muslim faith for years after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and had sought for several years to be discharged from the military. "I know what that is like," she said. "Some people can take it, and some cannot. He had listened to all of that, and he wanted out of the military, and they would not let him leave even after he offered to repay" for his medical training. An Army spokesman, Lt. Col. George Wright, said he could not confirm that Hasan requested a discharge. As authorities scrambled to figure out what happened at Fort Hood, a hazy and contradictory picture emerged of a man who received his medical training from the military and spent his career in the Army, yet allegedly turned so violently against his own. Hasan spent nearly all of his professional life at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in the District, caring for the victims of trauma, yet he spoke openly of his deep opposition to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. ad_icon Hasan, who was shot while being taken into custody, was reported in stable condition at a hospital Thursday night, authorities said. The Associated Press reported that Hasan attracted the attention of law enforcement authorities in recent months after an Internet posting under the screen name "NidalHasan" compared Islamic suicide bombers to Japanese kamikaze pilots. "To say that this soldier committed suicide is inappropriate," the posting read. "It's more appropriate to say he is a brave hero that sacrificed his life for a more noble cause." He steered clear of female colleagues, co-workers said, and despite devout religious practices, listed himself in Army records as having no religious preference. A longtime Walter Reed colleague who referred patients to psychiatrists said co-workers avoided sending service members to Hasan because of his unusual manner and solitary work habits. Hasan is a 1997 graduate of Virginia Tech who went on to get a doctorate in psychiatry from the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda. From 2003 through last summer, he was an intern, resident and then fellow at Walter Reed, where he worked as a liaison between wounded soldiers and the hospital's psychiatry staff. He was also a fellow at the Center for the Study of Traumatic Stress at the Bethesda military medical school. He had been affected by the physical and mental injuries he saw while working as a psychiatrist at Walter Reed for nearly eight years, according to his aunt. "He must have snapped," Noel Hasan said. "They ignored him. It was not hard to know when he was upset. He was not a fighter, even as a child and young man. But when he became upset, his face turns red." She said Hasan had consulted with an attorney about getting out of the service. On the rare occasions when he spoke of his work in any detail, the aunt said, Hasan told her of soldiers wracked by what they had seen. One patient had suffered burns to his face so intense "that his face had nearly melted," she said. "He told us how upsetting that was to him."	SurferJoe46 (51)
827601	2009-11-06 06:11:00	He attended the Muslim Community Center in Silver Spring and is devout, according to Faizul Khan, former imam at the center. He attended prayers at least once a day, seven days a week, often in his Army fatigues, Khan said. No wonder he was ****ed up. The man had no life and his only activity (seemingly) was praying. That alone should have raised red flags. The stuff that blackwater and the gang did as well as stories of what happened in Afghanistan/Iraq probably pumped him up. Prefect, the guy was an American citizen, surely he swore a number of oaths about that. He joined the army willingly too. So if he joined NZ, disagreed with policy he should be able to shoot us up? Life is full of bad things, we don't all go Rambo, do we? When did he join the army? If it was after 9/11 he knew what he was getting into, if it was before he could have left if he wanted to. Now he will be celebrated as a martyr for the next decade. I hope he gets a lot of pain.	Cato (6936)
827602	2009-11-06 06:17:00	Kill yourself, why kill others?	Cato (6936)
827603	2009-11-06 07:17:00	Why'd this get "moved"?	SurferJoe46 (51)
827604	2009-11-06 07:19:00	Why'd this get "moved"? Two (or was it 3) threads on the same topic. They just merged them.	Cato (6936)
827605	2009-11-06 08:22:00	If it was after 9/11 he knew what he was getting into, if it was before he could have left if he wanted to. It says that he wanted to leave the service but they wouldnt allow it. Makes me wonder why not let someone go if that person as put a request in.	ronyville (10611)
827606	2009-11-06 08:48:00	It says that he wanted to leave the service but they wouldnt allow it. Makes me wonder why not let someone go if that person as put a request in. As far as I am aware, the term for joining the US Army is 8 years (and I might be wrong here, SJ?). So by my count he joined post 9/11, in which case he was an idiot. Or he had a massive student loan he wanted to pay off. Personally, I'd have a joined the NZ army if I didn't have to sign a 15 year contract. I'd love to do a year or two, but I don't have it in me to sign over effectively the rest of my life to the anyone.	Cato (6936)
827607	2009-11-06 08:48:00	The reason why the military does NOT allow someone to go home if they don't like a policy is that they have a lot invested in a person and they'd like to get some of that money back if not in blood. sweat and tears, then by being useful as well as ornamental for their full, promised military conscription. It's a contract.	SurferJoe46 (51)
827608	2009-11-06 17:52:00	Try this link: . latimes . com/news/la-na-fort-hood-shootings6-2009nov06,0,4341651 . story" target="_blank">www . latimes . com They talked about his blog and his defending suicide bombing as a quick trip to god and this may get seriously redacted as the time goes by . Not worth it . There have been so many martyrs that their heaven has run out of virgins!! Ken ;)	kenj (9738)
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