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| 1116520 | 2010-07-06 11:55:00 | I'm in the planning stages for building a box for our new TV, to play /record Freeview, play DVDs, store and display photos etc etc. Initially I will start trialing with MythTV for software. I have not been keeping up with hardware for a few years now, so I would like some help to see if I have made any bloopers. here is my list of components: Motherboard:Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H Integrated ATI Radeon HD 4200 graphics Processor: AMD Athlon II X2 240 2.8GHz Memory: 2 GB DDR2-1066 Blu-Ray-ROM: Lite-On iHES208 HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 32MB 1TB Case Antec 2480 Hauppauge WinTV HVR-2200 OR Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA-TD 500 digital Terrestrial TV wired remote CPU Cooler: Scythe Shuriken Rev.B Mainly interested if CPU is cool running and compatible with AM2+, and I'm not familiar with the finer complexities of tuners. Any and all suggestions appreciated. |
PPp (9511) | ||
| 1116521 | 2010-07-06 12:00:00 | Nothing complex about tuners. Just plug it, give it an aerial, install drivers, load program for it, tune channels. Thats it. I take it the vidcard and TV have HDMI, if youre planning on playing bluray thru to the TV? What version of windows will you be using? |
Speedy Gonzales (78) | ||
| 1116522 | 2010-07-06 12:05:00 | If you can afford it, get a Phenom, the Athlons kinda suck hard | Deimos (5715) | ||
| 1116523 | 2010-07-06 12:53:00 | I take it you can get freeview hd? I would look at an nvidia card as ati has had lots of problems with our freeview hd in the past. This may have been fixed now though. I would also look at a better CPU and more ram and maybe also change to a ddr3 system. |
CYaBro (73) | ||
| 1116524 | 2010-07-06 14:19:00 | Speedy- "trialling Myth TV" The vid card is built in to the motherboard and decoders built in -takes the load off the CPU/RAM - MB has HDMI connection. Tuners I have been given a Windows media remote and IR USB sensor (seems compatible with a lot of software) so I'm hoping that it will work with these tuners, The HRV 2200 seems to have analog capabilities too, is there a vanilla version tuner with twin digital Freeview-T tuners only, the TD 500 looks OK, but has a WIRED remote, and seems like a much older model( tried PriceSpy but too many specs for me at the moment). I hope they work OK with full HD Deimos- AMD CPUs a bit of a maze to me! Not interested in to much performance at the cost of heat ,this is a dedicated machine in a smaller media style case, everything has to run cool and quiet. I only picked this one for its 45W it needs, and it did not seem too old?? CYaBro- yes Freeview is fine. Main thing about this system is the integrated graphics(Radeon HD 4200) doing most of the work, plus Motherboard and graphics for under $150 Here is a link on which I based the system:www.tomshardware.co.uk This is and older model, but you can see there not much call on the CPU etc. I am only going for a bit more power in case I need Windows7 after trying Myth. Intel integrated graphics don't stand up in comparison except for say, the i3, but that is a whole leap in overall cost. Thanks all for answering, I'd be interested in your futher comments |
PPp (9511) | ||
| 1116525 | 2010-07-06 15:32:00 | What version of windows will you be using?While it's possible to run it on Windows, you will need to compile it yourself, or grab someone else's build - MythTV is primarily a Linux application, and there is no official binary release for Windows. Noting that the Windows version doesn't support most tuner cards, I'd say it's fairly likely that the OP won't be using Windows on this box at all. See here (www.mythtv.org). |
Erayd (23) | ||
| 1116526 | 2010-07-06 20:55:00 | ATI cards are OK CB. I'm using one here, with Freeview HD, using a USB tuner. (except its not built in) I'm also using a MC receiver (I think it was for MC 2005, in Windows 7 MC). Works fine. I found programs, like MythTV and GBPVR too complicated, and even if I followed whatever, it didnt work. So, lucky Windows 7 MC detected the tuner, and tuned the channels for me. Otherwise, I wouldnt be able to use it in Media Center (since it doesnt work in Vista Media Center). But the tuner does have its own program (which also works fine). But it doesnt let you pause (like MC can). Thats about the only difference (except the program for it records in MP4, and MC records in WTV). |
Speedy Gonzales (78) | ||
| 1116527 | 2010-07-06 22:08:00 | Speedy- "trialling Myth TV" The vid card is built in to the motherboard and decoders built in -takes the load off the CPU/RAM - MB has HDMI connection. Yeah decoders are not part of the Video card. There has to be an H.264 chip in the vid card, but equally the OS/Media Software needs to know how to drive the H.264 chip. I'm not sure how much success people have had with MythTv TBH. And Getting the EPG in there is difficult I think, as a proper mheg5 decoder for MythTV hasn't been written (and the DVB EPG on Freeview|HD is now/next only - you need mheg5 support for the 8 day - or find one of the xmltv based sites that sky keeps trying to shu down. Tuners I have been given a Windows media remote and IR USB sensor (seems compatible with a lot of software) so I'm hoping that it will work with these tuners, The HRV 2200 seems to have analog capabilities too, is there a vanilla version tuner with twin digital Freeview-T tuners only, the TD 500 looks OK, but has a WIRED remote, and seems like a much older model( tried PriceSpy but too many specs for me at the moment). I hope they work OK with full HD Both cards are fine. The TD 500 is PCI - HVR2200 is PCIe. They both receive Freeview|HD with no issues. CYaBro- yes Freeview is fine. Main thing about this system is the integrated graphics(Radeon HD 4200) doing most of the work, plus Motherboard and graphics for under $150 Again what CyaBro was trying to say, was initially there were lots of issues with Hardware decoding on ATI cards under windows.....not sure if Linux was affected (or if it ever worked). This is because of the bleeding edge codecs used for our freeview HD. We use H.264 for video and HE-AAC-LC audio - this caused a lot of issues about a year ago as there was no real software support for it. Apart form the cost - Windows 7 Media center is the easiest way to get a Freeview|HD system up and running (does it out of the box). Coupled with the Mheg5 Freeview EPG collector (as listed on Geekzone) you can be up and running in a day. |
psycik (12851) | ||
| 1116528 | 2010-07-06 22:18:00 | Do you need an EPG collector for Win7 MC?? Since it does have a guide? But you're right CB, that maybe the reason why some programs pause (because of this vidcard), watching freeview. And because most ATI card dont support hardware acceleration (I think). I may actually replace this card for a 1 GB Nvidia vidcard. It'll probably make a diff |
Speedy Gonzales (78) | ||
| 1116529 | 2010-07-06 22:24:00 | Do you need an EPG collector for Win7 MC?? Since it does have a guide? But you're right CB, that maybe the reason why some programs pause (because of this vidcard), watching freeview. And because most ATI card dont support hardware acceleration (I think). I may actually replace this card for a 1 GB Nvidia vidcard. It'll probably make a diff It's to populate that guide. With satellite you can just use the card, this is because it uses EIT data for EPG. Our DVB-T standard doesn't use EIT, it uses mheg5 (kind of a glorified teletext) so needs a special collector, that has now been written for windows. |
psycik (12851) | ||
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