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Thread ID: 104930 2009-11-13 02:16:00 The stupidity that is the NZ give way rule, as seen from the eyes of an Aussie wratterus (105) PC World Chat
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829737 2010-03-03 11:45:00 I'm not certain as to when Victoria adopted the rule but I know we took it up and they dropped it. Sweep (90)
829738 2010-03-03 12:06:00 We took it up before Australian road rules were standardised, under national standardisation, it was dropped. Apparantly when we had it it was hopped that other states would also follow us but that didn't happen, and because of national standardisation of Australian road rules, it was dropped.
Did other states actually consider this rule and then reject it. Was it ever considered but not adopted elsewhere in the world?
Myrtone (15420)
829739 2010-03-04 03:53:00 We took it up before Australian road rules were standardised, under national standardisation, it was dropped. Apparantly when we had it it was hopped that other states would also follow us but that didn't happen, and because of national standardisation of Australian road rules, it was dropped.
Did other states actually consider this rule and then reject it. Was it ever considered but not adopted elsewhere in the world?

I dont think anyone else in the world would have been dumb enough to even faintly consider such a cack-handed rule,even in their waking moments, only the Aussies to ostensibly be of help to Melbourne trams and here in NZ, where at that time the country was still very insular and didn't really know what was happening elsewhere.

The big unanswered question is just who was dumb enough at the time (1977) in the MOT to bring in such a rule, and change what was perfectly ok, when a quick trip to Germany or the UK would have shown them what other people had done for yonks and yonks, and why.

Maybe it was the same MOT guys who refused to prohibit the use of Bogap CNG cylinders even though they didn't meet standards, until one blew up.......or even possibly the Upper Hutt guys who took about 5 goes to mark out lanes on some islands before being able to decide which was best.:banana

When at the time, those of us who could see it was dumb for several good road safety reasons were more or less told to stop being whingeing poms :)
Terry Porritt (14)
829740 2010-03-04 03:58:00 No. You're completely and utterly wrong. Red has right of way over blue, but unless they're a moron they give way to the yellow car. Blue uses mirrors properly, sees yellow, sees that red isn't going to go, and everyone goes in the correct order. It's seriously not that difficult. If you can't figure this out, you need to downgrade back to oz.



What the **** are you doing on our roads without knowing our road rules. On a light turning green, drivers waiting must check that the way is clear before proceeding into the intersection. This may indeed take a full second.

Errr. no mate, how long you been driving, me 29 yrs, what if blue moves over enough for yellow to go straight thru??, will red stay put, what if another car comes up behind yellow, yet yellow has already gone past?

The current rule is farked!
SolMiester (139)
829741 2010-03-04 03:59:00 Wratty, you are absolutely right. We used to have the old 'Right hand rule' whereby you gave way to any traffic on your right, unless you were TURNING right, in which case you gave way to everybody, until it was clear to turn. We changed in about 1974 in response to a projected change in Australia (purportedly to ease the way for trams in Melbourne in heavy traffic). Aussie didn't change, we did. STUPID!!! Now The Government here proposes changing back, but nobody has the guts to do it. STUPID AGAIN!!! The Samoan Government has more guts than ours. The sooner we get on with it the better. :annoyed::annoyed:

+1
SolMiester (139)
829742 2010-03-04 09:32:00 This is the only country in the world that has it's road rules, intersection design & general roading design overseen by the panel beaters association. The road rules, road design & condition are designed specifically to keep panel beaters & hospitals in business. Phil B (648)
829743 2010-03-04 18:10:00 This is the only country in the world that has it's road rules, intersection design & general roading design overseen by the panel beaters association. The road rules, road design & condition are designed specifically to keep panel beaters & hospitals in business.

I just don't believe it,who told you that?
Cicero (40)
829744 2010-03-04 18:48:00 I just don't believe it,who told you that?

Let us keep religion out of this. It sounds a good working hypothesis to me.
Terry Porritt (14)
829745 2010-03-04 19:00:00 Let us keep religion out of this. It sounds a good working hypothesis to me.

In that case,you will believe anything,I just can't see it being so!
Cicero (40)
829746 2010-03-04 19:15:00 In that case,you will believe anything,I just can't see it being so!

Then why would the lane markings around islands in Upper Hutt, and also those in Lower Hutt, particularly the one near to Melling, be changed so many times, if not to maximise work for the panel beaters ?

The Melling one use to be OK, but there were not enough accidents, so they changed the markings so that vehicles wanting the right hand lane out of the island have to change lanes immediately after having just turned left.

Whereas previously there were two lanes going into the island for turning left......it needs a diagram to illustrate the point.

It is difficult to see how so-called road engineers could be so thick otherwise.

Perhaps, there are sinecure road layout jobs at LTSA for panel beaters nearing retirement age ?
Terry Porritt (14)
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