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Thread ID: 111019	2010-07-10 11:06:00	Gaming performance doesn't seem to be what it should be	Agent_24 (57)	Press F1

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1117661	2010-07-16 08:30:00	Here's the final result: Benchmark Results: Windows 7 With Pixel\Vertex Shader 2.0 Effects = ~90 FPS Without Pixel\Vertex Shader 2.0 Effects = ~420 FPS Windows XP With Pixel\Vertex Shader 2.0 Effects = ~32 FPS Without Pixel\Vertex Shader 2.0 Effects = ~630 FPS (All other settings being equal) What do you think of that?	Agent_24 (57)
1117662	2010-07-16 10:17:00	A lot of old applications and games that will not work in Vista or Win7 at all. "A lot" like what? I'm sorry I can't relate, I don't have any software that doesn't work and if I had something that didn't work I would find an alternative rather than use XP. What about XP mode?	Deimos (5715)
1117663	2010-07-16 10:21:00	Here's the final result: Benchmark Results: Windows 7 With Pixel\Vertex Shader 2.0 Effects = ~90 FPS Without Pixel\Vertex Shader 2.0 Effects = ~420 FPS Windows XP With Pixel\Vertex Shader 2.0 Effects = ~32 FPS Without Pixel\Vertex Shader 2.0 Effects = ~630 FPS (All other settings being equal) What do you think of that? OK * Synthetic benchmarks are FTL * Windows 7 (DX11) "emulates" DX9 so I would expect to see some kind of performance penalty. * Why would you care if your FPS was 400 instead of 600? especially if the important aspect is faster (i.e. faster with Pixel/Vertex shader effects on)	Deimos (5715)
1117664	2010-07-16 12:53:00	"A lot" like what? I'm sorry I can't relate, I don't have any software that doesn't work and if I had something that didn't work I would find an alternative rather than use XP. What about XP mode? Alternatives? So, I'll just forget about playing a game I like and play a different one? That's not a very useful idea... To be honest I haven't tried XP mode, but since it emulates a 4MB PCI video card I can't imagine gaming performance would be very good. In any case, arguing over which operating system I like is not the point of this thread. OK * Synthetic benchmarks are FTL * Windows 7 (DX11) "emulates" DX9 so I would expect to see some kind of performance penalty. * Why would you care if your FPS was 400 instead of 600? especially if the important aspect is faster (i.e. faster with Pixel/Vertex shader effects on) I agree that one synthetic benchmark may not accurately represent overall performance and that more testing is needed. However, I cannot understand why there is such a difference (32 vs 90 FPS) If the DirectX 9 in Windows 7 causes a performance drop as you say, then why is it faster on Windows 7 when Pixel Shader 2.0 is enabled? (in case you are forgetting, Pixel Shader 2.0 is 8 years old from DX9 era) If what you say is correct, would it not be emulated just as much as the benchmark without it? Clearly the hardware is capable of at least 90 FPS on this particular benchmark. This should stay true no matter if it's real DX9 or emulated.	Agent_24 (57)
1117665	2010-07-16 13:05:00	For the record, I just tested the same benchmark on my Sempron machine which runs a Radeon 9600XT, it managed 17 FPS under XP Home SP2. Like DirectX 9, the Radeon 9600 is also around 8 years old. In comparison, my current-generation HD5770 barely manages twice that. What is seriously wrong with this picture? I think that ATi need to get their **** together and write some decent drivers, I can't see how it could be anything else...	Agent_24 (57)
1117666	2010-07-16 13:52:00	The point I'm trying to make is you are expecting to get good performance on a current gen card on an 8 year old OS, and bitching that ATI needs to make better drivers... What games? seriously, you say you have "a lot" of apps and games that won't run on Windows 7, but you don't mention specifically what games? I loaded a bunch of old games recently and they all worked fine! even pre XP era games work fine... I have had problems with a handfull of DX9 games but in all honesty, they all kind of suck now when compared to current games, perfect example is Test Drive Unlimited, it runs OK, but after playing it for half an hour I realised just how **** it is, and games like NFS shift, or Fuel, or Dirt 2, or Grid are all way more enjoyable, and TDU2 is coming pretty soon... I bought a whole heap of old games on steam and they all run without issues, all three POP games, Thief, the original half life, even Quake 2 runs fine... I can't really understand your reasoning, if you are so desperate to hang on to your old games, build a machine with old hardware, you can't expect ATI to have good support for a 8-9 year old OS when even Microsoft is dropping support for it.	Deimos (5715)
1117667	2010-07-16 21:20:00	I tested on my Sempron machine which runs a Radeon 9600XT, it managed 17 FPS under XP Home SP2. In comparison, my current-generation HD5770 barely manages twice that. I think that ATi need to get their **** together and write some decent drivers :lol::lol: BTW XP Mode was a big fail for the games and apps I tried it with. DOSBox solves it anyway....	pctek (84)
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