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1117641 2010-07-14 04:30:00 prolly nothing to do with the card i gt same card and run crysis on dx10 ultra high 1400x1200 2xAA with 25-35ish fps

Yeah I'm pretty sure it was a driver issue, will confirm when I reinstall
Agent_24 (57)
1117642 2010-07-14 04:59:00 prolly nothing to do with the card i gt same card and run crysis on dx10 ultra high 1400x1200 2xAA with 25-35ish fps


Your CPU is prolly like 30-40% faster, so much better at saturating the card with data.....
SolMiester (139)
1117643 2010-07-14 05:09:00 Have you ever notice when installing Geforce drivers, on the reboot, the native resolution is selected 9 times out of 10,but not with ATi?.....

Seriously, try another driver, then install DX9 again if using XP...

I can't remember if this happened with my 4870 but with my 5870 after installing drivers I get all three of my monitors on the native res AND in extended mode, I have to do is arrange them.
Deimos (5715)
1117644 2010-07-14 07:04:00 I would of thought hard drive, I know that when Im copying to or from my windows drive games can lag in the same way you described hueybot3000 (3646)
1117645 2010-07-14 08:01:00 I would of thought hard drive, I know that when Im copying to or from my windows drive games can lag in the same way you described

Hard drive was doing nothing (or at least, the light was off) - I blame crappy ATi drivers, that's what I get for jumping ship and ditching nVidia on this build. There just wasn't anything decent from nVidia out at the time and what was OK was far too expensive. I hope they bring out a new line of chipsets to rival the ATi 800 series soon...

I hoped that when AMD bought ATi they would improve the drivers, guess not. They rely on .Net for some stupid reason, and the Linux drivers suck.

nVidia's drivers don't require .Net crap and their Linux drivers are awesome.
Agent_24 (57)
1117646 2010-07-14 10:33:00 Thats a pretty bold assumption.

Playing Crysis on my old system didn't yield the same results specs were:
Q6600 @ 3.4Ghz
Radeon 4870
8GB ram

I never had any stuttering issue, I could run medium to high settings 2XAA at 1920x1080.

I seriously doubt that it is video drivers, I have not had major issues with ATI since XP came out in 2001, I have had a large range of cards.

.net is only required for CCC, the displaycard drive will work without .net and CCC, so your assertion that it is crap because it needs .net is BS, besides, all recent Windows OS have it included by default anyway, and a lot of software uses it these days.

If you made the switch recently, did you do a fresh install of Windows? or did you just swap cards and install the ATI drivers?
Deimos (5715)
1117647 2010-07-14 22:31:00 Just because you've not had any issues, doesn't mean that they're not still prevalent for the majority of other users. Chilling_Silence (9)
1117648 2010-07-14 23:07:00 Sounds like a driver issue then!, it is an ATi card after all!

x1000

I am currently in the process of RMA'ing the ATI I brought, High End my left butt cheek.....

Will NEVER buy another ATI product, Never had the misfortune of working with such horrible drivers.
DeSade (984)
1117649 2010-07-14 23:50:00 I can't remember if this happened with my 4870 but with my 5870 after installing drivers I get all three of my monitors on the native res AND in extended mode, I have to do is arrange them.

Did you upgrade or clean install?...I have never seen ATi drivers do that!
SolMiester (139)
1117650 2010-07-14 23:52:00 Thats a pretty bold assumption.

Playing Crysis on my old system didn't yield the same results specs were:
Q6600 @ 3.4Ghz
Radeon 4870
8GB ram

I never had any stuttering issue, I could run medium to high settings 2XAA at 1920x1080.

I seriously doubt that it is video drivers, I have not had major issues with ATI since XP came out in 2001, I have had a large range of cards.

.net is only required for CCC, the displaycard drive will work without .net and CCC, so your assertion that it is crap because it needs .net is BS, besides, all recent Windows OS have it included by default anyway, and a lot of software uses it these days.

If you made the switch recently, did you do a fresh install of Windows? or did you just swap cards and install the ATI drivers?

Yes I know you only need .Net for CCC but how are you supposed to change any settings without it?

Besides, if nVidia can make a control panel without .Net, then ATi can too. The use of .Net is moronic, it results in a more bloated software package and higher resources usage because it not only has to load its own code it must load .Net rubbish as well.


.NET allows developers to easily program in more functionality in the driver's user interface, especially for Windows Vista. Of course there are downsides to this for users, such as an incredibly bloated startup process and background memory usage.

Conclusion: .Net is for idiots who don't know how\can't be bothered to write code, which comes back to the fact that the ATi driver team are morons, confirmed by the fact that they suck at releasing Linux drivers.

And yes, this was a clean install of XP on brand new hardware with ATi drivers installed from square one. They have no excuse to fail.
Agent_24 (57)
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