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Thread ID: 104904	2009-11-12 04:11:00	Hey Paul (Brislen) NZ is finally getting cheaper mobile calls	Digby (677)	PC World Chat

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829489	2009-11-12 20:29:00	Ah. I suppose it's okay if Internet devices and work phones are included.	pcuser42 (130)
829490	2009-11-13 08:44:00	Ah, that's where it gets misleading. They're not carrying two phones. Two Degrees' own research shows about 3% of users are carrying two phones but doesn't ask why (is one a work phone for instance). Oh yes they are. I know several people with two phones and two connections and work often has nothing to do with it.	mikebartnz (21)
829491	2009-11-13 10:15:00	Hi there, If you have a look at the Commerce Commission report you'll see they say that Vodafone's on account plans are not only better value than most countries around the world, but they're better value than the Prepay plans from the three providers as well. The report also notes that its analysis of prepay plans is open to debate as it doesn't include things like Best Mate or Family and we will be working with the Commission to include those in future issues of the report (it's twice yearly I believe). All up it's a good report and it says what we've been saying all along: it's not regulation that makes changes to the market, it's competition and we've moved from two networks on differing technologies to three networks (albeit not all national networks) on the same technology base, with another six or seven MVNOs offering very good pricing. It's a competitive market and the customers will benefit because of it. Cheers Paul Which just goes to prove Mark Twain's adage about "Lies, damned lies and statistics" - you just have to look at the numbers the right way.... Ah, that's where it gets misleading. They're not carrying two phones. Two Degrees' own research shows about 3% of users are carrying two phones but doesn't ask why (is one a work phone for instance). I have three or four depending on my mood but they're not phones, they're connections. One phone, one BlackBerry (usually not though), one Vodem stick, one netbook with an embedded chip. We don't measure number of phones, we measure number of connections and that's set to rise dramatically over the next few years as we get all kinds of devices connecting to the network. Burglar alarms and water meters are coming on stream now, for example. Is it a bad thing? I don't think so. Two Degrees clearly does though. Don't forget the huge number of smart meters (electricity) being rolled out in the next couple of years. Methinks the telecoms companies will have to report connection types to give the reportees a clearer picture in future	johcar (6283)
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