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| Thread ID: 111348 | 2010-07-23 07:26:00 | New desktop - suggestions please? Update for your comments... | R.M. (561) | Press F1 |
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| 1121687 | 2010-07-23 21:43:00 | Totally up to you of course, but no need to spend lots of money on a PC that's way over the top power wise, unless you want to of course. (not my money so I dont really care). Just as an example,a couple of weeks ago, I upgraded a customers business PC to CS4 from CS1 (they run a sign business with dedicated commercial laser printers connected to the PC) the PC's spec's are P4 3.0, RAM 1.5GB, onboard graphics, 2 x 250GB drives -- and after talking to him earlier this week, he has said there's no problems at all. Well only one ;) -- He has to relearn how to use CS4 since its quite different to the original. The whole point of the example is simply to show, dont be fooled into thinking a person has to have a "beast" of a PC to run the program. Sure lots here say build it BIG (if you want to spend lots then thats up to you) -- but they are not the ones paying for "their dream machine" that you would be using. Edited: I'm with gary -- I personally wouldn't use Samsung as a HDD, OR LG optical Drives. I used to use LG for a while in builds, but found out at least 75% would fail within a year. x2. Thou we had LG CDROM for 5yrs then now the DVDRW for 6+ :D Don't get Sony, our DVD Player deck which was $900 in 1999 doesn't work now, my Sony MiniDisc was a fad anyway, doesn't record but plays. Re: the PC, you don't need it but up to you. If you were scanning film, like 35mm format when one file could be 50-100MB and you were doing many of them like batch scanning and batch post processing but maybe, even better if you were shooting medium format film. As a hobbyist I may PP 6 images for a SIG I belong to and maybe 1 or 2 A3 prints each 3 or so months .. and see if it can be selected. I shoot film still, 35mm formats scanned at 4,000 dpi, I do have large sizes but I had no probs PP them in PS CS4. Also played with my folk's 6x6 medium format film too. Maybe it also depends on what sorta rendering filters you wanna use and with that how much paitence and your workload. |
Nomad (952) | ||
| 1121688 | 2010-07-23 23:05:00 | Thanks for all your replies. I'll have to sit and 'digest' them. This was just the first suggestion from Computerlounge for me to consider. Various reply comments: I have always used Seagate HDDs, the one I had problems with was replaced under warrenty. Interested in your comments about Samsung. I use (currently) Pioneer cdrom drives - no probs there either (had ?BM that died very quickly, but that's a long time ago now). Wainui - I understand your comments about 'more than I need' computer power (but this might be the last I buy while in paid employment...), so a bit of 'head room' might be useful (or not, if you tell me so!). Nomad - I'm totally digital in my photography now. I do a small bit of scanning, but pretty low key stuff. Probably I need to spend some time thinking about monitors - NEC seems to get good kudos. I THOUGHT I had researched my last monitor (Samsung) but on relooking now, it doesn't look so good. :( And no - I don't do any gaming (my son does...).But at his house, on his gear. Or do you think I should just go down to Hardly Normals and look at what they have???! :) |
R.M. (561) | ||
| 1121689 | 2010-07-23 23:25:00 | The following are personal comments, but there's on that almost every one will agree on :D (Guess) *HDD's -- Seagate are fine, used them for a long time as well as Western Digital. Only real problem with seagates were when they had their little firmware issue a while back, but thats fixed now. Samsung - personally I see more failures,mainly from older ones (3+ years old) *These days I use Asus or Liteon Optical drives, from memory one of those are basically Pioneer re-branded anyway( maybe someone can confirm that). Once again, samsung tend to die to often. *More Power Than Needed --- If you have the money and are quite happy to spend ???? then go for it, always better to have more power than not enough, the whole point I was making before is you dont "have" to be that powerful. Having a bit of 'head room' is fine. *Monitors - Funny things really -- some are better than others - one good test is to go to someplace that has one going on display, see if you like what you see, different people like different outputs. Dont go buying cheap rubbish though - you'll "pay for it" later on :) * do you think I should just go down to Hardly Normals and look at what they have NO BLOODY WAY :mad: You will be 100% better off with a custom built PC, you wont get all the crap apps the name brand put in, and a custom one will be built to what you want and be a lot better all round and keep Norton off of it, other wise you will need all that power. * one thing you dont skimp on is a GOOD power Supply - having a cheapo, or lower power will only cause problems. Something like Corsair are a good brand. |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1121690 | 2010-07-24 03:46:00 | 'Quote: do you think I should just go down to Hardly Normals and look at what they have NO BLOODY WAY' Got the reponse I expected/hoped for! :devil What do you think of the case - a mini tower? That would be new for me. What are the limitations? |
R.M. (561) | ||
| 1121691 | 2010-07-24 05:01:00 | The CASE (www.computerlounge.co.nz) -- LIAN-LI are a good brand, usually well built. The case is very plain looking, depends if you like it or not - its you that has to look at it :D Some people like all the bells and whistles with flashing lights , has to look a certain way -- thats a personal preference. One thing I did notice, it doesn't mention what Power Supply in the spec's, so I would assume you have to select one your self ? The power Supply is also not mentioned in the quote as far as I can see ??? Kind of need one of those ;) SWMBO when I asked her what she wanted for Her PC, she said a cardboard box for all she cares :lol: -- Not quite, so we all have These (www.computerlounge.co.nz) (with Corsair PSU's), and the Elite 332 which computerlounge dont have. The main limitations of a mini case, -- Tighter space for components, you may find some graphic cards wont fit, you have to be more careful when wiring up, nice and tidy, tucked out the way as much as possible to improve airflow. You building this your self from the parts they supply or having it prebuilt ? |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1121692 | 2010-07-24 05:23:00 | Pre built . But I then want the ability for us (Himself & Meself) to upgrade/add bits and pieces . Hoho! I don't really care about the bells and whistles, but like it to be functional, well ventilated and I suppose looking not too peculiar . And yes, I had a look at the pic of the case . Fairly plain pic - thought you might have been able to turn it around (or something) . Yes, I searched through that list (difficult to read, isn't it?) and couldn't see a power supply either . But then I'm not that good at reading that sort of list . . . Can do lists of medical ailments better . :) |
R.M. (561) | ||
| 1121693 | 2010-07-24 10:50:00 | You may have to ask CL what the PSU is . Often a case will come with some rubbish PSU and they may just be using that . For photoshop this would be a bit overkill, I can chop away quite happily even on my laptop (1 . 8ghz Core 2, 3GB Ram, Intel Graphics) until images get so big that I run out of ram . If you deal with large images (upwards of 2000x2000 px) I would consider more ram . Even as much as 12GB isn't really a waste . And the i7 870 would be a great CPU for that sorta thing as it gives you the same grunt of the 1366 CPU's but less cost so more money for ram . AFAIK photoshop doesn't really have a use for graphics cards? So you could probaly cut that down if you're definitely not a gamer . Future proof sounds important to you so I would be spending the extra on quality brands (especially PSU) and it will run forever . I can't see photoshop or anything like that becoming hugely more demandin anytime soon and with any i7 build your gonna have more grunt than you can use anyway . Also spending a bit more on a mouse would be a good call if you use it alot with photoshop! |
hueybot3000 (3646) | ||
| 1121694 | 2010-07-24 12:11:00 | I would also suggest a second HDD to be used as a scratch drive for PS, a old one laying around will do. | plod (107) | ||
| 1121695 | 2010-07-24 21:20:00 | I would also suggest a second HDD to be used as a scratch drive for PS, a old one laying around will do. Ahh - I plan to do that! One of the two drives in the current system. The other will become yet another external backup drive on the desktop... :) |
R.M. (561) | ||
| 1121696 | 2010-07-24 21:31:00 | You may have to ask CL what the PSU is . Often a case will come with some rubbish PSU and they may just be using that . For photoshop this would be a bit overkill, I can chop away quite happily even on my laptop (1 . 8ghz Core 2, 3GB Ram, Intel Graphics) until images get so big that I run out of ram . If you deal with large images (upwards of 2000x2000 px) I would consider more ram . Even as much as 12GB isn't really a waste . And the i7 870 would be a great CPU for that sorta thing as it gives you the same grunt of the 1366 CPU's but less cost so more money for ram . AFAIK photoshop doesn't really have a use for graphics cards? So you could probaly cut that down if you're definitely not a gamer . Future proof sounds important to you so I would be spending the extra on quality brands (especially PSU) and it will run forever . I can't see photoshop or anything like that becoming hugely more demandin anytime soon and with any i7 build your gonna have more grunt than you can use anyway . Also spending a bit more on a mouse would be a good call if you use it alot with photoshop! Good comments - thanks! Another forum (photographic, and I've just been reading, not submitting questions) seems to suggest that a lighter weight graphics card (but not to the level for gaming) is a good idea for particularly CS5 . I want (not need) a Natural ergonomic key . What would you suggest for a mouse? By the way, my starting size for pics is 5184 x 3456 (or vice versa) and that's before I add layers . . . . |
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