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Thread ID: 105439 2009-12-02 04:46:00 Auckland Harbour Bridge Richard (739) PC World Chat
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835799 2009-12-02 21:35:00 And they say the traffic will be so bad in 2030 the extra tunnel etc will be required....wtf
I thought Auckland traffic was bad now?
Gobe1 (6290)
835800 2009-12-02 21:41:00 Come on all you people in NZ living in the hicks send us cheques. prefect (6291)
835801 2009-12-02 22:08:00 ...

10-15 years!

Why don't we just get workers down from China and have the thing finished a lot sooner. also none of this digging for a tunnel pre-fab tunnel sections, sink-join-pump water out, much quicker.

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No, no. it doesn't work that way. We have two completely different set of values - western vs oriental. The methods and management principles of getting a job done are totally different. The workers and engineers from the East won't accept the 'orders' from the top management (the Western management - mainly whites) and likewise, the Western management can't accept (or tolerate) the attitudes (or ethiques) of workers/engineers from the East. These two sets of values cannot work harmoniously hand in hand.

Another important factor is Feng Shui. The Compass is an important instrument for getting the right Feng Shui in order to make everything works correctly, and, mind you, we are in the Southern Hemisphere and the Chinese Feng Shui principle is based on the Northern Hemisphere's magnetic fields to give the right indications. The Feng Shui compass may not indicate correctly in the opposite half of the globe. :D Without the guidance of the Feng Shui, the Chinese won't be able to accomplish the tasks!
bk T (215)
835802 2009-12-02 22:14:00 Yep our way the European model, the construction industry has been infiltrated by pom unionists mean there would be strikes during the construction increasing cost and delaying it.
If some rabble raiser in an the Asian construction industry tried the same the boys would take care of him issuing him a pair of concrete gumboots.
The japs built the clipons not that long after the war I dont have a problem with a Chinese firm building it.
prefect (6291)
835803 2009-12-02 22:18:00 In took Sweden and Denmark 10 years to build a bridge an island and a tunnel
which was 16.4km long.


www.roadtraffic-technology.com

That's an incredible feat of engineering. Afraid it's probably in the 'too hard or expensive' basket for our engineers to do something as imaginative. :)
Richard (739)
835804 2009-12-02 22:29:00 Yep our way the European model, the construction industry has been infiltrated by pom unionists mean there would be strikes during the construction increasing cost and delaying it.
If some rabble raiser in an the Asian construction industry tried the same the boys would take care of him issuing him a pair of concrete gumboots.
The japs built the clipons not that long after the war I dont have a problem with a Chinese firm building it.

The Japanese civilization cannot compare to the Chinese civilization. Chinese have very ancient, long civilization whereas, the Japs' haven't. The Japs are much more 'westernised' than the Chinese, therefore the West can accept the Japs much better than the Chinese and vise versa.
bk T (215)
835805 2009-12-02 22:41:00 The 'clip-on' bridge extensions were installed in 1969. That's a fair while after WW2. Richard (739)
835806 2009-12-03 00:37:00 Stick a toll on the bridge to pay for the upgrades and new tunnel/bridge
Infact after visiting brisbane two months ago, stick tolls every where and may be our roads could be as good as theirs one day
Gobe1 (6290)
835807 2009-12-03 02:54:00 The 'clip-on' bridge extensions were installed in 1969. That's a fair while after WW2.
24 years aint that long not long enough to forget all the bad ass things they did.
prefect (6291)
835808 2009-12-03 08:21:00 And they say a second harbour crossing will take 10-15 years to build.

10-15 years!



it will take 10-15 years just to do the red tape.
i would not seriously think that most kiwis alive today will get to see a second crossing built. going by the speed they operate at, i would guess a 30-50 years before its done.

look how long it took to do the northern motorway extension. they got forced to as their resource consents where running out, so they slapped tolls on to do it.
thats only for some baby tunnel and a bit of motorway. what do you think a great long muilti lane tunnel under the sea is going to be like !
tweak'e (69)
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