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Thread ID: 105368	2009-11-29 19:55:00	Bikies Mall Protest Canned.	Trev (427)	PC World Chat

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834726	2009-11-29 19:55:00	www.nzherald.co.nz What rights have the bikies got to do this if the protest had of gone a head, none. People tend to forget that carparks around super markets malls etc are private property and the owners of these places have the rights to stop people from entering them. The same goes for shops etc, when you enter a shop you are on private proerty. :)	Trev (427)
834727	2009-11-29 20:03:00	A lot of the people who own/manage supermarkets and malls have motorcycles and although filthy rich probably sympathise with them. Not all of them are grumpy old men. I am sure they wouldn't stop people coming in to buy stuff so why should stop people trying to park a bike.	prefect (6291)
834728	2009-11-29 20:21:00	Trev, Are you for real? :( :(	Zippity (58)
834729	2009-11-29 22:32:00	www.nzherald.co.nz What rights have the bikies got to do this if the protest had of gone a head, none. People tend to forget that carparks around super markets malls etc are private property and the owners of these places have the rights to stop people from entering them. The same goes for shops etc, when you enter a shop you are on private proerty. :) Car parks are more problematic. Yes they are on the whole private property. They are also, because the public have vehicular access, classed as public roads. To stop you entering would usually need a Tresspass notice. Something interesting to ponder is that while the Bikers are quite rightly protesting the actions of ACC, car owners are not complaining one little bit about the proposed huge rise in their levies. Someone has it wrong and I don't think it's the bikers.	Sam I Am (1679)
834730	2009-11-29 22:51:00	Trev, Are you for real? :( :( ????????? :)	Trev (427)
834731	2009-11-29 23:00:00	They have no rights but they do have the ability to protest in that manner to raise awareness. It was the biker community itself who put a hold on this protest as the majority did not wish to inconvenience the public. Responsible protesters! They are right though ... the ACC seem to be picking off a small minority and as the bikers say "Who's next?". Their rise is based on CC ratings, why not cars next year ... or those cars with poor safety ratings.	Oggy (5399)
834732	2009-11-29 23:30:00	The idea was to demonstrate the effect of taxing people off bikes, to illustrate this they were going to visit the mall and park their bikes in a park each while they went and had coffee. The concept is visual impact. What special rights do you think they need to park and spend? You will also find this was a small project put together by some regular joes and was pulled in all sorts of stupid directions by the media, resulting in the misconceptions as put forward in this thread.	Metla (12)
834733	2009-11-30 00:03:00	The idea was to demonstrate the effect of taxing people off bikes, to illustrate this they were going to visit the mall and park their bikes in a park each while they went and had coffee. The concept is visual impact. What special rights do you think they need to park and spend? You will also find this was a small project put together by some regular joes and was pulled in all sorts of stupid directions by the media, resulting in the misconceptions as put forward in this thread. The media had nothing to do with this. The fact is that the organiser of this did not have the support he thought he had. The majority of bikers discussing the subject did not want to upset the general public.	Sam I Am (1679)
834734	2009-11-30 00:16:00	The media had nothing to do with this. The fact is that the organiser of this did not have the support he thought he had. The majority of bikers discussing the subject did not want to upset the general public. I'm referring to the public perception of the event, The public being informed by the media, Not the fact that the event was canceled or the amount of biker support required. Of course, Much of the lack of biker support/negative reaction was due to how they first heard of the planned action, In the Herald and with plenty of spin attached. So yes, The media played a part.	Metla (12)
834735	2009-11-30 02:47:00	Of course, Much of the lack of biker support/negative reaction was due to how they first heard of the planned action, In the Herald and with plenty of spin attached. So yes, The media played a part. Nah. Can't agree. First, there was never going to be a public announcement by the organisers because that would defeat the whole purpose of the protest. Info was generally just on their KiwiBiker website. Also check out their website and you'll see that the majority of their members were against this before the media even found out.	Oggy (5399)
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