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Thread ID: 146667 2018-10-19 07:24:00 PCTEK Moves piroska (17583) PC World Chat
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1454557 2018-10-19 07:24:00 Well it may be a couple of weeks.

My mum is back in hospital, they put her on prednisone for the arthritis paralysis last time. Inflammation, fluid, swelling etc...which it does help being a steroid.

Vicious side effects which she refused to listen to.
One of the not so vicious is high sugar levels.
And they are.

Hospital didn't care, kicked her out with it at 30. (normal should be 8 for her so thats enormous - nearly coma levels)

Been that way since pretty much.

She has one dose of long acting insulin in mornings (this was for ages, she got type 2 years ago), and refuses to change that or add more.

She needs more, like twice a day or probably a short acting in addition. But she won't.

So she is back in cause it went sky high, she got dehydrated, mental confusion, exhaustion (sugar level thing, not real) and my brother rang the ambulance.

Hospitals don't do this, and they have done nothing so far other than the usual check BP, check sugar (and ignore it) and hydrate her.
I hassled them today about it but who knows, especially if she keeps refusing anwyway.

Anyway also they said her back (trashed) the nerve damage is more the thing, paralysis will come back and from the spine damage and well that's that.

So she panicked and told me to come. To mind my brother of course.

I don't trust her, shes done this 3 times already, then got nasty and said don't come.

But I think maybe this time I have to ignore it and go.
Cause sooner or later she won't be able to move, never mind, mind my brother.

So it's all depression here, cats not yet but they will be when they find out.

napier...meh. I hate the heat, hate the wind.

I guess at least the traffic will be an improvement.

PITA, I have to book truck, pack, see truck go, wait overnight and go next day, fly down, unload the spare rooms (stuffed with furniture and junk) put it who knows where, so I can meet truck the same day, shove truck stuff all in those rooms (and the garage) and then unpack waiting terrified cats, all in one go, all on my own.

My brother can't help.

Husband will be in car with his mate who is driving it down for us.

Sigh.....and no doubt my mum will be back on don't come mode and she hates animals too.
piroska (17583)
1454558 2018-10-19 10:32:00 Lucky it's Friday, that sort of news on a Monday could be depressing. Good luck with the shifting. And cats. R2x1 (4628)
1454559 2018-10-19 19:38:00 Why is your Mum not on Metformin?

Good Luck for the future :)
Zippity (58)
1454560 2018-10-19 21:37:00 Good Luck for the future :)

+ 1

All the bestest :)
WalOne (4202)
1454561 2018-10-19 22:32:00 Might be easier to hire some storage for the stuff you don't need to pack into the house.

For example, there's likely already a kitchen/dining table. No need squeezing in another one. Same regarding chairs, freezers, washing machines, dryers. If there's an unsused bed - stash it away elsewhere, otherwise the lack of space will drive everyone nuts.

Best chance to reduce friction (from my perspective) is to try to keep yourselves in seperate living areas as much as possible.
Paul.Cov (425)
1454562 2018-10-19 23:44:00 Metformin

1)She hated it
2)It did nothing to keep sugar levels low
3)It has nasty side effects.

She got type 2 as a result of a gall bladder infection years ago, surgeon told her it had infected pancreas as well and was on insulin from go.
A gp then messed with it later , put her on the metformin instead, and she had high sugar for a few years (Not as high as now), which caused some retinopathy, and the side effects and new gp swapped her back to the insulin. Which worked for ages, well.

Until the prednisone....

Storage? We're not taking the whole house, just our bedroom stuff, pc stuff etc.

The stuff I have to move out, is hers, and am not permitted to store it anywhere else other than her place.
Dining suite - its solid oak with innerspring chairs. Sorry - my one of very few things I now own and it's coming.

Their suite is manky, '70s and been repaired numerous times.

Brother is happy to get mine, meanwhile it will live in garage while she keeps the wrecked one.


For sure, it has a huge double garage and sheds and we will busy ourselves in garden and garage a lot I would imagine...
piroska (17583)
1454563 2018-10-20 00:27:00 What possible nasty side effects are there with Metformin?

I think the problem is in your mother's head. Sad.
Zippity (58)
1454564 2018-10-20 05:35:00 Common side effects include diarrhea, nausea and abdominal pain. High blood lactic acid level is a concern in large doses. It should not be used in those with significant liver disease or kidney problems.

Metformin is contraindicated in people with any condition that could increase the risk of lactic acidosis, including kidney disorders lung disease and liver disease.


The most common adverse effect of metformin is gastrointestinal irritation, including diarrhea, cramps, nausea, vomiting; metformin is more commonly associated with gastrointestinal side effects than most other antidiabetic medications. The most serious potential side effect of metformin use is lactic acidosis.

Metformin has also been reported to decrease the blood levels of thyroid-stimulating hormone in people with hypothyroidism.

Gastrointestinal upset can cause severe discomfort; it is most common when metformin is first administered, or when the dose is increased.

Long-term use of metformin has been associated with increased homocysteine levels and malabsorption of vitamin B12.

The most serious potential adverse effect of biguanide use is metformin-associated lactic acidosis (MALA).
Phenformin, another biguanide, was withdrawn from the market because of an increased risk of lactic acidosis (rate of 40-64 per 100,000 patient-years)

Lactate uptake by the liver is diminished with metformin administration because lactate is a substrate for hepatic gluconeogenesis, a process that metformin inhibits.


It is well known to cause nasty stomach problems in a lot of people - ones I know who had it.
My mum has B12 deficiency already. That is often an age thing, but she sure doesn't need it made worse.

She had lots of problems with it.

Some may not, but she sure did. She doesn't have normal type 2 anyway, it's stuffed because of the infection and therefore needed insulin.....like type 1's.
piroska (17583)
1454565 2018-10-20 05:56:00 I feel sad for you, doesn't matter what you do she wont be happy. Just try to be happy & keep smiling. You have a life as well. PJ Poppa John (284)
1454566 2018-10-20 19:00:00 I had a suspicion her protests about the extra insulin may have something to do with quality of life...arthritis isn't fatal and years of pain and being unable to move? But she wouldn't admit such a thing and I sure won't ask her. piroska (17583)
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