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| Thread ID: 146674 | 2018-10-21 08:02:00 | An ethical dilemma | Tony (4941) | PC World Chat |
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| 1454673 | 2018-10-22 23:51:00 | What clothes? Designer stuff is it really, and that too is made overseas. MY mum used to be a seamstress, none exists now. And NZ made other - very few things are made here now. Certainly not cellphones. Yes, About the only day to day non food things made in NZ now are Health Pills High priced natural soaps etc Plastic lunch boxes (we export these!) What else? High wages, small market, high cost of machinery, lack of R&D money all contributed to the demise of our manufacturing industry |
Digby (677) | ||
| 1454674 | 2018-10-23 17:39:00 | The worlds only radio controlled forestry equipment for ultra steep terrain is designed and built in Brightwater Tasman. | gary67 (56) | ||
| 1454675 | 2018-10-23 23:29:00 | <> Why is a checkout person in NZ worth $20 an hour and in Australia $25 an hour yet a factory worker in China is paid only $4 an hour for making things we want such as phones and computers? <> Checkout Operator Salary Hourly Data NZ$16.23 Avg. Hourly Rate Hourly Rate NZ$14.99 - NZ$18.11 www.payscale.com Hourly Tips NZ$0.00 Overtime NZ$16.12 |
bevy121 (117) | ||
| 1454676 | 2018-10-24 00:30:00 | I guess there are some unethical sweat shops about, seen some here in NZ too but you may find these factories have at least 10 workers while everything else is machinery and robotics. | Kame (312) | ||
| 1454677 | 2018-10-24 01:12:00 | I guess there are some unethical sweat shops about, seen some here in NZ too but you may find these factories have at least 10 workers while everything else is machinery and robotics. I don't think there is any "I guess" about it. |
Tony (4941) | ||
| 1454678 | 2018-10-24 16:01:00 | Checkout Operator Salary Right, that's another thing! In the country where the material /shirt is being produced, the workers are paying what tax to the gov't and in NZ that number is huge. So, both are being exploited?! What other choice would be have, btw. To not buy clothes (or, wear any :))? Err, I'm saying that there isn't any (choice) to be made, unfortunately. We can't produce our own (like we can do with electricity, for example, via solar and wind and whatever), so... What's there to be done, actually? o.0 |
kgbme (17644) | ||
| 1454679 | 2018-10-24 17:21:00 | Err, I'm saying that there isn't any (choice) to be madeThe choice is to make sure you are conscious of what is happening and raise awareness of it wherever you can. The various posts in this thread that imply workers here can be compared with those in (say) Bangladesh show a profound ignorance of the conditions in which many of them work and live. Even the lowest paid checkout operator here (to use the example picked on by other posters) has a hugely better standard of living than the people in those other countries. | Tony (4941) | ||
| 1454680 | 2018-10-24 20:33:00 | Even a $60 t-shirt can be produced the same way. You have no idea if a company paid cents for it and marked it up greatly. Understand that places like china, india, etc everyone there is expendible in seconds and there's always someone willing to take over. There's probably a little exploiting but they do what they need to survive and not all of them are lining their pockets with gold. Competition is cut throat. Throughout history there has been many times of unethical working situations in the 'western' world, but what made it ok these times? War? It was Family, you do what you can for them and if you asked the workers there that is their most common answer of why they do it. Now how many leaders have exploited people by saying 'families' in their speeches? |
Kame (312) | ||
| 1454681 | 2018-10-24 21:51:00 | Spent over 350 dollars on school uniforms. Black plain trousers 80 dollars, Jersey 120 dollars. Overpriced and made in China likely. 1000's of NZ school kids wear them daily, maybe they can contribute back somehow? Or the importers, or sellers? | kahawai chaser (3545) | ||
| 1454682 | 2018-10-30 10:28:00 | Plant your own cotton, spin your own thread, sew the shirts yourself. It's the only way to know what's really going on. If you buy mass produced, there's always going to be something unethical associated with it, that's inevitable. |
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