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| Thread ID: 146674 | 2018-10-21 08:02:00 | An ethical dilemma | Tony (4941) | PC World Chat |
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| 1454663 | 2018-10-21 20:19:00 | That's a very weak justification for exploitation. What? You would sooner see them starve? Do you really think that if you had paid $120 rather than $12 for your shirts that the workers in Pakistan or China or anywhere else would be paid even one cent more? |
CliveM (6007) | ||
| 1454664 | 2018-10-21 21:58:00 | Ethics aside (child labour issues), a common practice in retail is to offer loss leaders, and I'm guessing your $12 shirts were one. Loss leader?I don't think these were loss leaders - those sorts of things are usually heavily promoted and these seemed part of the normal stock. |
Tony (4941) | ||
| 1454665 | 2018-10-21 22:00:00 | What? You would sooner see them starve?Of course not. What I would like to see is for them to be paid a reasonable wage so they could live in decent conditions and not have to be working 12 hours a day at 12 years of age. | Tony (4941) | ||
| 1454666 | 2018-10-21 22:11:00 | Here's the real dilemma. These are supposed to be ethically produced - but look at the price: nz-brotherswestand.glopalstore.com It makes $12 even more attractive. I'm sure there could be a middle way. |
Tony (4941) | ||
| 1454667 | 2018-10-22 04:39:00 | www.reuters.com Worth a read if you can get it. |
tut (12033) | ||
| 1454668 | 2018-10-22 04:53:00 | www.reuters.com Worth a read if you can get it. The interesting things to me in that article are that for $8.59 (in 2008, maybe $10.50 today after inflation) the author got a 5-pack of China-made underpants where I didn’t go into anywhere that was a sweatshop, certainly, (though) I expected to see pretty grim working factories. I’m very confident that the actual pants in question are produced as close to ethically as its possible to produce underpants in China. Sure, people are working longer hours for less money, but that’s the function of a different economy with a huge labor market. So maybe $12 for a shirt is ethically do-able - although I'm still dubious. |
Tony (4941) | ||
| 1454669 | 2018-10-22 07:48:00 | I certainly won't be losing any sleep tonight over a $12 shirt :) | Zippity (58) | ||
| 1454670 | 2018-10-22 21:06:00 | , but I think in future I will look for clothing that has a greater sense of ethical dealing behind it. then buy NZ made clothes. and why stop at clothing.... dont buy asian made shoes ,phones, TV's , cars,computors, general household items...the list is endless. Its not just the wages, its the working conditions . no one bothers to consider the Chinese employees making Iphones driven to suicide (they had to put up anti-suicide nets at the factory) stop buy asian made goods, worst that will happen is those employees will loose their job & starve . its a no win situation |
1101 (13337) | ||
| 1454671 | 2018-10-22 23:22:00 | Its a well know fact that its the top brands eg Nike that make the huge markup and the factories and their staff get stuff all. This ethical pricing topic has come up in the UK. Its a tricky one. As others have said the people in those factories have a job and a regular income, rather than existing on a small farmlet. I tend to reverse it. Why is a checkout person in NZ worth $20 an hour and in Australia $25 an hour yet a factory worker in China is paid only $4 an hour for making things we want such as phones and computers? That Rebel Sports v Warehouse is a great comparison. No wonder Rod Duke has a helicopter on his mansion. |
Digby (677) | ||
| 1454672 | 2018-10-22 23:26:00 | buy NZ made What clothes? Designer stuff is it really, and that too is made overseas. MY mum used to be a seamstress, none exists now. And NZ made other - very few things are made here now. Certainly not cellphones. |
piroska (17583) | ||
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