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1452016	2018-07-26 21:54:00	Driver helpers are a bad idea. Stick with the manufacturers drivers. NOD32 is the best Av there is, if you go with free, don't expect as much protection.	piroska (17583)
1452017	2018-07-26 22:11:00	In the real world, from what Ive seen, pay AV often doesnt all offer better protection than SOME of the free AV. Real world malware gets past it all. Also, ONE free program cleans up infections better (Mbytes) than payware AV, that why its allways mentioned in advice for cleanup. Malware get past the whole lot . But, ESET tends to be much more reliable . Its a more trustworthy company, excellent NZ based ph support . And, the 2 of the 3 top free AV's are absolute crap , just because of ehat they do to your system. Add to that that 2 of those 3 free AV's are NO BETTER THAN MALWARWE with the tatics they use :scareware, tricking using into paying, loading up the PC with unessasary snake oil bloatware . Bitdefender Free seems OK.	1101 (13337)
1452018	2018-07-27 03:31:00	Ok I have been convinced I will install a Optical drive and install the driver CD From there I will let windows update take care of the rest (except the graphics of course, I control that) ESET is on my machine but I am not willing to pay for it for this one so I will use Bit Defender. If it gets badly infected I will wipe it and re-image it. Thanks Guys.	DeSade (984)
1452019	2018-07-27 04:13:00	ESET is on my machine but I am not willing to pay for it for this one so I will use Bit Defender. If it gets badly infected I will wipe it and re-image it. Thanks Guys. You know that you can add a second additional Licence for Nod32, several people I know have increased and its cost them less than $20, depends on when the original is set to expire. The renewals (retail) $49.52 for 1, $72.86 for 2.	wainuitech (129)
1452020	2018-07-27 05:13:00	You know that you can add a second additional Licence for Nod32, several people I know have increased and its cost them less than $20, depends on when the original is set to expire. The renewals (retail) $49.52 for 1, $72.86 for 2. They quoted me $70 for a second licence	DeSade (984)
1452021	2018-07-27 06:10:00	We've got 3 licenses for Smart Security, around $115 per year all up.	Beav (17610)
1452022	2018-07-27 09:33:00	They quoted me $70 for a second licence Here's the RRP pricing, from the dealers price list, ( add in gst) as well as the 5 user packs. 8969 8970	wainuitech (129)
1452023	2018-07-28 06:54:00	i wouldnt bother with the driver cd, they're probably out of date anyway Get whatever from the manufacturer's site . But as mentioned, if you install win10, use its drivers . I can't remember the last time, I used a cd or dvd for anything	Speedy Gonzales (78)
1452024	2018-07-31 07:04:00	Some interesting comments about PAID vs FREE and how there is "little to no difference" between the 2 because "MALWARE" gets through either. Whilst that may be true it has nothing to do with whether your solution is paid for or not. If a threat such a virus/malware is not known to a AV/Malware vendor then of course when the malware/virus is downloaded to the PC it will get through because the AV/Malware system doesn't have the appropriate "detection" mechanisms in place. The only caveat here is that most AV/Malware programs have a default set of rules which look for/detect behaviours which "may" indicate dodgy activity and will thus "block" this activity. This is how security consultants make money by selling their knowledge of vulnerabilities and associated exploit mechanisms to AV/Malware companies who then update their software to defend against these threats. No AV/Malware software will be able to detect a "zero-day"" threat. It is called a zero-day threat because there is no known fix or countermeasure for that threat. Any well maintained AV/Malware suite will easily (in most cases) detect all "known" threats as long as its detection engine and definitions are up to date... the misconception most people have is that they assume once they have AV or Malware protection installed they are protected... which is not true for 2 reasons; These programs cannot defend against unknown threats... as explained above. These programs cannot defend a against users who don't pay attention to what they are doing and/or have no basic understanding of how to spot phishing emails, clicking on unknown urls or downloading/installing programs they know nothing about or surfing websites which are dodgy. I used to work for a large enterprise company and as part of our IT Risk Management strategy we would send out phishing emails to employees to see if employees followed the IT policy for spam/phishing emails... we went as far as creating an Outlook plugin which gave the user a "Report SPAM/Phishing" button that automatically sent the offending email as an attachment to the SOC for review but despite this for 12 months straight an average of 65% of employees failed this test regularly... in some cases certain employees were "repeat offenders" in terms of falling for phishing emails. The basic rules for endpoint security... Spend money on a decent end-point protection product... having said that there is no problem with using a free product however paying for one does provide better piece of mind and almost always guarantees that the vendor will provide updates to keep you secure. Microsoft is probably the exeception to this rule because they are trying to peddle the Windows platform as a one-stop solution which has everything including end-point protection so they do keep their product and definitions up to date. Keep your end-point protection up to date - most do this automatically so not really a major headache. Learn how to spot phishing emails, don't click on unknown urls, don't download or install unknown programs and don't go to websites which are dodgy. Keep your OS up to date (at a minimum install SECURITY updates) I have been using ESET Smart Security/Internet Security for as long as I can remember. For the past few years I've been using their "multi-device" pack which gives me Firewall and/or AV protection across a combination of 5 devices running Windows, MAC, Linux and Android platforms. My recent 2 year renewal for 5 devices cost me a mere $150, which I think is a bargain considering I was at one point paying $80+ per license (device) per year. The ESET product is excellent and does a really great job of not only protecting my systems but does so without killing the performance of my computer. All in all a WIN-WIN.	chiefnz (545)
1452025	2018-08-01 23:24:00	I am using Defender on one machine, and Malwarebytes Pro by itself on 3 others. They are both very good, except Defender slows the launching of some programs, same as its predecessor Microsoft Security, it also takes forever to do a scan. Malwarebytes doesn't slow anything, and does a scan in a few minutes. It costs about $75 a year for 3 licenses.	mzee (3324)
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