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| Thread ID: 105577 | 2009-12-07 08:41:00 | Do you believe in God? | xyz823 (13649) | PC World Chat |
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| 837370 | 2009-12-10 07:34:00 | There is no room in my life for an all singing all dancing omnipotent being, however there is probably room for the old Norse Gods. I want to go to Valhalla and be with the Valkyries, much better than Heaven. Christianity teaches you can't do this, you can't do that. The old pagan gods supposedly put us here to amuse them where as the Christian god supposedly put us here to obey it, him, her, they or whatever. So in a straight out choice I will be a pagan but in reality I'm atheist although I don't necessarily believe in creationism completely either. So no I don't believe in God, I think I will like the old Gods they seem more fun |
gary67 (56) | ||
| 837371 | 2009-12-10 07:50:00 | Hope the people who go to heaven are going to have more of a sense of humour there than they do on earth. | zqwerty (97) | ||
| 837372 | 2009-12-10 08:06:00 | Probably be busy killing each other to see who gets to sit closest to God..... | Metla (12) | ||
| 837373 | 2009-12-11 01:40:00 | An intriguing sequence of thoughts have just crossed my mind. Summarised, it seems to me that those who subscribe to 'God' belief structures either do so because they expect some preferential treatment in the future, which is really quite the antithesis of the behaviour one would expect from an all-seeing, all-knowing omniscient and omnipotent God of love and forgiveness, or they do so to fulfil a need to have a deity who will provide an umbrella against the downpours of life, ultimately to absolve them of all responsibility for their own weaknesses and/or carnal (or other) urges, or to fill a void in their psyche where reality, responsibility, self confidence and self awareness should reside. Whichever way they describe their faith it always seems to come back to a variation on one of those two themes. I purposely left out fear of a vengeful God because that goes hand in hand with the promise of either preferential treatment, or eternal damnation / the fires of hell / wet weekend in Wellington etc. It is just a personal view, and may not be as well expressed as it might, but it is as close to philosophical ruminations as I can get on a Friday afternoon. My thoughts were kicked off by remembering a retired Vicar whom I met last weekend, who was the most enchanting and interesting man I have spoken with in years and yet he didn't display one solitary sign of traditional godliness, drinking as he was with a mixed group of inveterate sinners. I wish this thread had started a week ago, I'd have had a great discussion with him for sure. Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 837374 | 2009-12-11 02:18:00 | Hope the people who go to heaven are going to have more of a sense of humour there than they do on earth. Something I would tend not to accuse you of Zqwert. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 837375 | 2009-12-11 02:31:00 | Probably be busy killing each other to see who gets to sit closest to God..... An instant fight will break out with the arguments about who was right or closest to it, the rest will fight because it's not how they wanted it. A thought occurred to me today, all those people who have near death brain malfunctions and claim to have seen the "light", how come all of them report happy, light, lovely experiences and immediately believe in heaven - the opposite of that should be.................but no-one ever reports anything like that do they. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 837376 | 2009-12-11 02:34:00 | [QUOTE=Billy T;848285] My thoughts were kicked off by remembering a retired Vicar whom I met last weekend, who was the most enchanting and interesting man I have spoken with in years and yet he didn't display one solitary sign of traditional godliness, drinking as he was with a mixed group of inveterate sinners. I wish this thread had started a week ago, I'd have had a great discussion with him for sure. More liquor vicar |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 837377 | 2009-12-11 03:39:00 | Why is it that people seem to be able to believe anything,I mean you name it and someone believes it. | Cicero (40) | ||
| 837378 | 2009-12-11 03:42:00 | Sorry, I don't believe you Cic... | johcar (6283) | ||
| 837379 | 2009-12-11 03:45:00 | An intriguing sequence of thoughts have just crossed my mind. Summarised, it seems to me that those who subscribe to 'God' belief structures either do so because they expect some preferential treatment in the future, which is really quite the antithesis of the behaviour one would expect from an all-seeing, all-knowing omniscient and omnipotent God of love and forgiveness, or they do so to fulfil a need to have a deity who will provide an umbrella against the downpours of life, ultimately to absolve them of all responsibility for their own weaknesses and/or carnal (or other) urges, or to fill a void in their psyche where reality, responsibility, self confidence and self awareness should reside. Whichever way they describe their faith it always seems to come back to a variation on one of those two themes. I purposely left out fear of a vengeful God because that goes hand in hand with the promise of either preferential treatment, or eternal damnation / the fires of hell / wet weekend in Wellington etc. It is just a personal view, and may not be as well expressed as it might, but it is as close to philosophical ruminations as I can get on a Friday afternoon. My thoughts were kicked off by remembering a retired Vicar whom I met last weekend, who was the most enchanting and interesting man I have spoken with in years and yet he didn't display one solitary sign of traditional godliness, drinking as he was with a mixed group of inveterate sinners. I wish this thread had started a week ago, I'd have had a great discussion with him for sure. Cheers Billy 8-{) That is of course a good thought. Richard Dawkins in his book explored as to why the human brain may look for some sort of god to worship. He linked it to evolution and why the belief in a god may have helped accelerating natural selection. He mentioned of a theory whereby you take a tribe with fierce aggressive gods, where if you fight fearlessly and courageously you'd reserve a special place in their god's heaven. With this sort of mindset a tribe will more likely be able to conquer enemies and further spread their belief. |
qazwsxokmijn (102) | ||
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