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Thread ID: 105488	2009-12-04 03:23:00	Should we be worried?	nofam (9009)	PC World Chat

Post ID	Timestamp	Content	User
836290	2009-12-04 07:47:00	Amen!	ubergeek85 (131)
836291	2009-12-04 08:01:00	Firstly PIRACY ISN'T THEFT. When you steal a movie from a shop you take it and they no longer have it. Whereas piracy simple makes a copy. So pirates aren't actually stealing as such. They are merely taking away potential profit. Notice how I use the word "potential", saying that they COULD get that money. It doesn't necessarily mean they WILL get that money. For example, the movie 2012. I would estimate that would be over a million downloads by now. But would every single one of those million people actually PAY for the movie if they had no other choice? How many of us can afford to spend $15 to see a movie once, or maybe $20-$30 to get it on CD. Or even $20 on an album? We are in the middle of a recession, people are tightening their belts because they dont have enough money to spend. The producers don't realise this. They want their profits to go back to pre-recession times. So even if this law is passed I don't see profits increasing dramatically because people will instead just go without.	xyz823 (13649)
836292	2009-12-04 08:05:00	In saying that I still don't condone piracy but I won't look down my nose if you do.	xyz823 (13649)
836293	2009-12-04 08:09:00	They artists and movies producers don't realise this. They want their profits to go back to pre-recession times. WRONG! WRONG! Alot (well, some) artists agree with you. It's the record/movie companies/execs pushing this stuff through. Artists are always going to be ripped off, piracy or not. Same reasons that my sig (and avatar) is what it is; it's not that I want to just steal sh!t, but I'm against the corporatisation (is that a word) of content. Sure, that's not going to go away, but I might pay for mroe of my media when some of it actually goes to the artist, and I can do whatever I like with it (both in law and DRM).	ubergeek85 (131)
836294	2009-12-04 08:09:00	Well put darkstar. Lets see how many people argue with you that piracy is stealing because they've seen the start of old videos/dvds ("you wouldn't steal a car...you wouldn't steal a handbag" etc)	--Wolf-- (128)
836295	2009-12-04 08:10:00	WRONG! WRONG! Alot (well, some) artists agree with you. It's the record/movie companies/execs pushing this stuff through. Artists are always going to be ripped off, piracy or not. Same reasons that my sig (and avatar) is what it is; it's not that I want to just steal sh!t, but I'm against the corporatisation (is that a word) of content. Sure, that's not going to go away, but I might pay for mroe of my media when some of it actually goes to the artist, and I can do whatever I like with it (both in law and DRM). When I say artists I mean to include record/movie companies.	xyz823 (13649)
836296	2009-12-04 08:13:00	Well put darkstar. Lets see how many people argue with you that piracy is stealing because they've seen the start of old videos/dvds ("you wouldn't steal a car...you wouldn't steal a handbag" etc) This is all the anti-piracy I need; www.youtube.com darkstar09 Interesting POV. Personally I think it's the artists getting the crumbs, but that's just my opinion.	ubergeek85 (131)
836297	2009-12-04 08:20:00	Personally I think it's the artists getting the crumbs, but that's just my opinion. Yep the record companies and movie producers alredy have enough money lining their gold trimmed pockets.	xyz823 (13649)
836298	2009-12-04 08:30:00	This is all the anti-piracy I need; www.youtube.com THAT is gold! :lol::lol:	--Wolf-- (128)
836299	2009-12-04 08:59:00	Firstly PIRACY ISN'T THEFT. Thats a statement you will NEVER win. Take this for example -- Lets say for a moment you are a programmer - you design some program, and thousands of people want to buy it -- Now lets say you decide to make a living from selling that and other programs - say $100 per copy and you sell 5 a day. All good while people pay for your work. Someone puts it on the internet, and its downloaded by thousands of people - you get nothing for it and your income dries up, where if you had sold it you would get $$. WHOS the loser - YOU!! SO going by your theory its perfectly fine for people to pirate your work.	wainuitech (129)
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