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Thread ID: 105642 2009-12-09 16:33:00 Google DNS ? SurferJoe46 (51) PC World Chat
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838093 2009-12-09 16:33:00 The headline reads:


Is Google DNS (ct.zdnet.com) for your enterprise?

And I wonder if I am an enterprise - am I?

I so - then what in the world is a DNS anyway?

Can I get two if they are free?

What's this all about in English, not GeekSpeak.

I'm asking the dumb question here for all those who are afraid to look silly like me - but I don't care.
SurferJoe46 (51)
838094 2009-12-09 17:07:00 DNS = Dynamic Name Server.
Sort of a library (or phone book) of all the internet addresses. It is where your browseer goes to convert an adress such as "pressf11.co.nz" to it's address in numeric style, which is the useful one as far as the interweb is concerned.
As default, most people probably use the DNS provided by their internet service provider. However, the web is a pretty dynamic beast, so addresses are frequently changing, and a DNS may be somewhat out of date, or a bit slow to respond. Using an alternate DNS may enhance your web experience by removing a bit of a bottleneck.

Vegemite always helps.
R2x1 (4628)
838095 2009-12-09 17:18:00 DNS = Dynamic Name Server .
Sort of a library (or phone book) of all the internet addresses . It is where your browseer goes to convert an adress such as "pressf11 . co . nz" to it's address in numeric style, which is the useful one as far as the interweb is concerned .
As default, most people probably use the DNS provided by their internet service provider . However, the web is a pretty dynamic beast, so addresses are frequently changing, and a DNS may be somewhat out of date, or a bit slow to respond . Using an alternate DNS may enhance your web experience by removing a bit of a bottleneck .

Vegemite always helps .

TY - I was confused - well, I still am a little . I thought the DLL was the look-up library established by cookies or temp files in your own 'puter .

The only time (as I maybe erringly thought) that you used an outside look-up library was when you either dumped all your cookies or went some place new .

So - is the idea of a DNS so new then? If the DNS can be so far out of date, then what hope is there for a DLL to be any better?

I remember a search engine a while back called "Clusty" that used it's own algorithms - was that therefor also a DNS?

And what about "Dogpile"? Was that also a sorta-DNS? There have been so many of these engines that I wonder if they qualified technically as a DNS too .

I miss Clusty and NorthernLights . Dogpile was so-so .
SurferJoe46 (51)
838096 2009-12-09 18:55:00 The DNS is not on your computer - it is a server elsewhere that is continually being updated and adding to its data store. The web is Dynamic in a big way.
Think of the DNS as a phone book - or a dialler maybe. Search Engines, (Google, Dogpile, Jeeves etc.) are somewhat like a librarian - ask them about information and they will find the references they know about.A DNS simply takes an internet address you supply and looks up it's address in machine format. Just like looking up a phone number. The trick is, addresses change and the time between updates of the DNS you are using varies its usefulness and speed a lot. If the DNS is not too powerful or fast, queries may start getting queued, and voila - you have a slow-down in your browsing. Change to a faster responding DNS and your internet experience may improve quite markedly with no other changes needed.


YMMV This is only the view I have formed of DNS, reality is possibly vastly different.
R2x1 (4628)
838097 2009-12-09 19:00:00 There are other threads about this elsewhere on the forum. The problem with Google and OpenDNS DNS servers, at least in NZ, is they are slow compared to the DNS server of your local ISP, it's all due to distances and geography. Terry Porritt (14)
838098 2009-12-09 20:29:00 The DNS is not on your computer - it is a server elsewhere that is continually being updated and adding to its data store . The web is Dynamic in a big way .
Think of the DNS as a phone book - or a dialler maybe . Search Engines, (Google, Dogpile, Jeeves etc . ) are somewhat like a librarian - ask them about information and they will find the references they know about . A DNS simply takes an internet address you supply and looks up it's address in machine format . Just like looking up a phone number . The trick is, addresses change and the time between updates of the DNS you are using varies its usefulness and speed a lot . If the DNS is not too powerful or fast, queries may start getting queued, and voila - you have a slow-down in your browsing . Change to a faster responding DNS and your internet experience may improve quite markedly with no other changes needed .


YMMV This is only the view I have formed of DNS, reality is possibly vastly different .


There are other threads about this elsewhere on the forum . The problem with Google and OpenDNS DNS servers, at least in NZ, is they are slow compared to the DNS server of your local ISP, it's all due to distances and geography .

I see the light now . Thanks .

It seems to me that if word of the Google DNS gets to too many people, then it too will be packed with people lined up to get info . That will make it just as bad - right?

Maybe however, those M$ types will stay away for brand prejudice and it won't be used by much more than Google-types . That would be helpful .
SurferJoe46 (51)
838099 2009-12-09 21:07:00 I suspect Google are pretty comfortable with "Big", however, it is easy to try and see if things improve with a different DNS; if it doesn't put a squib under your system, just try a different server until you find one that fits your needs and wants. I like OpenDNS, but you may find it doesn't fire your web glands at all.
It is simple to change, just find the numeric URL of the desired DNS and stick it into the preferences of your modem / router and after a router hard reset, away you go. (Hopefully with a beaming smile.)
R2x1 (4628)
838100 2009-12-09 21:12:00 There is a good critique of Domain Name Servers by Mauricio Freitas:

"Why bother with Google DNS (or any other third party DNS resolver)?"

www.geekzone.co.nz
Terry Porritt (14)
838101 2009-12-09 21:22:00 There is a good critique of Domain Name Servers by Mauricio Freitas:

"Why bother with Google DNS (or any other third party DNS resolver)?"

www.geekzone.co.nz
Blardy good revolver the DNS
prefect (6291)
838102 2009-12-09 22:28:00 There is a good critique of Domain Name Servers by Mauricio Freitas:

"Why bother with Google DNS (or any other third party DNS resolver)?"

www.geekzone.co.nz
Permalink: www.geekzone.co.nz
Renmoo (66)
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